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    dragoelete's Avatar
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    Drago Xhula
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Benedictrine View Post
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    as far as i can tell its not useful period since the fact that within the what 20-25 seconds your fairy will be able to heal a heck of a lot more than 20% than you ever could with that skill on. not to mention that is only if you are using eos its even worse if you were useing selene cause not only are you losing (again but not as much) healing but you are also losing out on her party/raid wide buff ability's...
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    Benedictrine's Avatar
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    Winnie Bear
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Your fairy is not using embrace on recharge. EOS has an aoe heal (buffer at best), a % heal which might as well be considered mantra, since you'd only use it in emergencies or, once again, it's a buffer skill, and an elemental buff, which is by far the most beneficial skill EOS has and the only real argument for using her vs the attack speed(with 30s downtime that can help dps push during dps checks(this is also where you can be without fairy just fine)))/aoe condition spell that selene has. So far, no content has anything that makes the ele buff considerable over selene. Unless you're talking about heal checks like t13, maybe t8, and... t2 enrage, I'm failing to see an argument for eos.
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    Viviza Viza
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Benedictrine View Post
    The argument of HPS is irrelevant in most content because you're factoring in non existent heals by thinking like that.
    ??? What is this.
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    Justin Tymes
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    ??? What is this.
    I think what he's saying is optimal healing isn't required in most, if any, content right now. Yes, with Eos you'd most certainly heal more over time then when you use Dissipate, but if using Dissipate gets you over the hump, it doesn't really matter since you've stabilized. HEaling over Time would only truly come into really play when Mana management is involved, and SCH, for the most part, has no trouble with MP management.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Embrace (manual, not macroed with anything) is a key part of many SCH's playstyles since it's what supports your efforts to provide supporting DPS and set up situational buff combos throughout the fight.

    SCH, even with its mostly excellent expanded kit, is not a WHM. Using Dissipation to heal feels like using mjolnir to hang picture frames; it's unnecessary healing power when what I really could have used is my fairy to top people off separate from my GCD and for free or to keep fluffing the tank.

    I won't review all the reasons why the extra Aetherflow stacks aren't really that great, but in short, Dissipation deserves a lot of flak for punishing the player to achieve a marginal benefit.
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    Zari Lutus
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I find it a useless skill except in ridiculous emergencies that shouldnt even happen in the first place, and then if the boss or mobs that caused the emergency is still there afterwards, you lose a huge amount of your healing (and/or buffs from selene) until dissipation is over
    And then have to waste a swiftcast and a ton of mp to get the fairy back
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Was thinking about a writeup as to why I just don't use it, but I found this instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zari View Post
    I find it a useless skill except in ridiculous emergencies that shouldnt even happen in the first place, and then if the boss or mobs that caused the emergency is still there afterwards, you lose a huge amount of your healing (and/or buffs from selene) until dissipation is over
    And then have to waste a swiftcast and a ton of mp to get the fairy back
    Cool concept, but impracticality incarnate. Jesus...
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    Veind Aethervale
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    The only time I use it is when I'm soloing or doing A rank hunt. Broil > ED > repeat. I can use ED up to 9 times.
    I never use it in party that needs healing. Handling a big risk with a bigger risk is a bit unreasonable imho.

    This oshi- button requires 2 steps to be actually in use (for Lustrate or Indomitability), which is not motion delay wise and not quite good considering it's our lv 60 spell.

    And it's actually not really worth the time:
    - I have to spend time to press Dissipation,
    - and later spend another Swiftcast, (heck, I need to save/prepare to use it for Raise in a drowning party)
    - summon Fairy.

    In a case I need to burn Lustrate or Indomitability, and later it will require me to spend another 1k+ MP to summon Fairy? No, I'm not going to spend another 1k+ MP and my Swiftcast in a really dire situation.
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    Character
    Una Gloriana
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    So disappointing. I was expecting the faeries to learn new spells after lv 50, at least one, something like Enkindle maybe. Nope, send her away instead. I know Emergency Tactics is useful, but I feel like it should be called White Mage Tactics, either that or Indo. Both is just too much burst healing, and then no fairy for a healing potency boost? Scholar should be about mitigation and the fairies, rather than outputting big heals. Seriously, after lv 50 it feels like Sch is a totally different job than what I thought.
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