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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninimo_Babamo View Post
    Your AST isn't even 60 yet, and the OP is 60 and farming end game content. I have no idea why you think AST MP pools are larger. I'm i180 on both WHM and AST. Out of party, 10376 HP on both; 13027 MP on both. There's no difference.
    Yes, My AST is not a 60, but I know they have the most Piety so what your saying can't be true. On top of that as a 60WAR, it's my job to take the heat, not them. I see many idiots actively eat damage like Alexander's T3 where that orange tether is on someone, I go take it off, then some WHM/AST (haven't had a SCH with me yet) just swoop, being "I GOT THIZ" and dies instantly, or T4 the orbs, in the middle of EVERYTHING. We tell them we tanks can take them, they eat one, last phase they end up OOM and dead, scratching their heads on why. Half of the time they end up OOM and with us tanks dead by the barrage.

    So plz, don't shut down good advice cause of my healer's level. :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiisWolf View Post
    Yes, My AST is not a 60, but I know they have the most Piety so what your saying can't be true.
    It is true.

    Piety does not change based on class (unless you use your attribute points in Piety instead of Mind). It comes from gear, race stats, attribute points, and level. So an i180 AST and WHM with the same armor and accessories on, with all their points in Mind will have the exact same Piety and Mind specs unless one of the jobs had a weapon that offered Piety while the other did not, as not all healer weapons offer the same stats.
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    Last edited by Selli; 07-13-2015 at 07:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    *snip*
    The i180 weapons all have 69 PIE on them but trade it for SS on the i190 weapons.
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    I don't know why SMN is so low on most orders here. With their 3.0 rotation changes they really are not that starved for Aetherflow MP unless they are Ruin 3 spamming outside of Dreadwyrm Trance.

    The raise order should be SCH>SMN>WHM>AST.

    Basically it goes from jobs that have most efficent/less-impactful MP regen cooldown, to the job that has two of them, then the job that only has one. AST should absolutely be last in just about any situation unless swiftcast is down by all jobs, and they can lightspeed the raise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
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    Making the SMN rez someone is a DPS loss. Having to save Swiftcast for rezzing someone is a DPS loss because Swiftcast -> Shadowflare is a great way to push your DPS even harder. Though right now SMN isn't hurting for DPS :P

    WHM also have pretty good mana management now that Assize is a thing on top of SoS.
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