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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyondgrave View Post
    Ilvl 179 atm. I can farm rav ex and A4 but I tend to run out when stuff goes wrong,when I have to rez, and near the end of the fight
    And you should. A good healer shouldn't be able to carry a crap party, no matter how good they are. When stuff goes wrong, it's time for the group to get their act together and try harder. I tend to hold a spear card in my hand to use on myself before Luminiferous Aether. I pop a party buff, use the spear card on myself, use my Aether, then pop Opposition to extend all the durations. It goes a long way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninimo_Babamo View Post
    And you should. A good healer shouldn't be able to carry a crap party, no matter how good they are. When stuff goes wrong, it's time for the group to get their act together and try harder. I tend to hold a spear card in my hand to use on myself before Luminiferous Aether. I pop a party buff, use the spear card on myself, use my Aether, then pop Opposition to extend all the durations. It goes a long way.
    If only holding a spear card could be done out of combat, but during combat its too unreliable to wait for a spear card before using LA and Opposition. I tend to hit LA as soon as im down 1k mp, to maximize the usage
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    Quote Originally Posted by chumsy View Post
    If only holding a spear card could be done out of combat, but during combat its too unreliable to wait for a spear card before using LA and Opposition. I tend to hit LA as soon as im down 1k mp, to maximize the usage
    Even if you could spread spear out of combat, using spear + opposition for your MP usage isn't worth in comparison to the RR AOE buff the spear card gives for casting balance/arrow just after or even to the speared buff himself casted on AOE.

    I assume the better option would be when you have a RR AOE buff, you Draw balance/arrow and before you had spread Spear. So now you cast the balance/arrow, then you spear yourself, then you hit LA and finish with using opposition.

    In this situation the spread spear for yourself is worth because it doesn't prevent the AOE buff for the raid, but how many times are you meeting these requierements ? Even with spread out of combat, that's still too much for multiple occurences to happen around the same time.

    As a result RR Spear / Speared AOE > Selfish spearing.

    For those who use Spear on themself and opposition too just for the LA, this is the very wrong way to go. Better struggle at MP than loosing opposition and 1 card on only 1 target most of the time. Use Ewer on you instead of Spear, because for Ewer you haven't as much great choices as spear :

    - RR it, that's correct for a next balance/arrow/bole or even another ewer
    - Spread it for a time you know it's needed and you have a chance that you'll use it on some RR potency/duration effect
    - use it without any buff, it's still convenient if you can't do anything else

    Now the persons who may actually need this card since we heard so much "AST cards are to support the raid, not using them on himself" :

    - the other healer but unless it's an AST he has better MP recovery
    - the smn but for now I never heard one asking for MP
    - the blm... Oh wait not even the case
    - the only one who left is you

    So basically, Ewer is born to be used only on you or on your co-healer if he is struggling more than you (in this last case, there is a more important issue...).
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    Last edited by Kelya; 07-15-2015 at 06:56 AM.