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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMccain View Post
    Me and a few other people have provided hard evidence. And what did you provide? "Your personal experience" with no video or anything.

    If you want to back up your claim, please provide a credible source.
    What hard evidence? You've provided your explanation of how you claim it works. I have experienced otherwise. Your evidence, to me, is therefore useless and not hard at all.

    I don't care about convincing you or anyone else. I know what I've experienced.

    You can cite your "hard evidence" until you're blue in the face, but it won't prove anything to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    And that's of course only with one target. Add in multiple target scenarios and you've got any number of procs within 3 seconds if you're spreading the love.
    All dots works in the same way. ALL dots. Be it a bard, ninja, summoner or monk.
    The only thing that might give you 2 BL procs in the same 3 sec is a server/latency lag (you actually need to receive this proc from server and there as always some issues happens). And of course getting more than 2 procs is just impossible no matter how many targets you put your dots on.

    You can go to dummy and try to get separate dots ticks on it. Post a video if you'll succeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felessan View Post
    The only thing that might give you 2 BL procs in the same 3 sec is a server/latency lag (you actually need to receive this proc from server and there as always some issues happens).
    Which, frankly, is irrelevant how it happens as long as it can happen. Doesn't matter whether it's design or latency, a wasted proc due to a double proc is a wasted proc due to a double proc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    I don't care about convincing you or anyone else.
    You obviously care enough if you are responding to people with the famous "you don't main BRD argument". The truth of the matter is, they can read tooltips and you can't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    I have experienced otherwise. Your evidence, to me, is therefore useless and not hard at all.
    Well that's a shame. Hey lets disregard the thousands of years of history written in several books because "I haven't experienced it!" Bad logic is bad. Go to any youtube video recording a parse and watch how DoTs tic simultaneously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMccain View Post
    The truth of the matter is, they can read tooltips and you can't.
    Which tooltip is relevant and proves your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    Which tooltip is relevant and proves your point?
    http://xivdb.com/?skill/90055/River-of-Blood
    "Grants a 50% chance that critical damage over time inflicted by Venomous Bite or Windbite will reset the Bloodletter recast timer."
    I will even hold your hand and paraphrase it for you. If your VB or WB tic for critical damage, you have a 50% chance of bloodletter resetting.

    DoT tics however, tic at the same time. So your VB and WB(even if both of them crit) can only reset bloodletter once every 3 seconds.
    Here is a random video I found on youtube demonstrating that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZnpeVTbVGE
    The only time there are two DoT tics not ticing simultaneously is if there is flaming arrow and WB/VB going.
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    Last edited by JohnMccain; 07-13-2015 at 06:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMccain View Post
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    Individual ticks for DoTs are calculated separately, but the damage is dealt server-side on a globlal GCD. Otherwise, we wouldn't have two different instances of varying crits when looking at DoT damage (let alone seeing bloodletter refresh twice in a three second window)

    And if it were true, then you'd still have the same problem on some of the fights that have multiple enemies (which to say, most of current content) and you'd still have the trouble of those procs occuring in a way you can't use it up.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 07-13-2015 at 06:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
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    Go test it for yourself on a dummy. I have conducted several tests and the only time my bloodletter resets is right after a dot tick on the target. Sometimes both of my DoTs crit and guess what? I was only granted 1 bloodletter proc every single time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
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    Then post a video of this. Any video. You can save yourself the hassle, and shut up all these nonBRD mains.
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    Last edited by JohnMccain; 07-13-2015 at 08:03 AM.

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    The only time I have personally seen bloodletter reset twice in a GCD was when multi-DOTting adds that spawned mid-battle. This is due to all DOTs ticking at the same time on a target, but each target having their own "clock". This can be verified by going to your house's striking dummies. Throw DOTs on all of them. Since they've been there since the last maintenance, they all have the same clock timing, and the DOT damage will show up at the same time. Now put one of the dummies in your bag and then put it back out. Reapply DOTs and you'll see the DOTs now tick at different times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMccain View Post
    Then post a video of this. Any video. You can save yourself the hassle, and shut up all these nonBRD mains.
    Why? Like I said, I don't care if you agree with me. I know what I've seen and done. You could post seven videos of yourself never getting double resets and it still wouldn't convince me because I know what I've done.

    Also, where's that tooltip that proves your point? After you made such a big deal of how others could read tooltips and I can't, I'd have thought it'd be easy.
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