Oh, so FFXIV is pay-to-win? That's... stupid.

[Aeyis]

Material-wise what do you actually have filling your retainers? I am curious as I have all my crafts at 60 and have quite a bit of room, even holding all my randomly collected "junk" that I really won't ever use.

Hmm.

All HW ores, metals, stones, lumbers. Different types of (highlevel) whetstones. All types of HW cloth, and their raw materials. All HW skins and leathers. The raw materials are needed to leave the option of making HQ materials open.

Untradable dyes. Pigments for the regular dyes. Upgrade materials/off set equipment, glamours.
Crafting + gathering materias. Some hard to find housing materials/items. (IE: primal items)
HW Alch items.

In some cases (like skins) HQ materials are kept. A lot of the HW refined items require keeping stock of some other (lower level) materials as well.


How much you need to stock up on depends on your server. On larger servers I imagine a lot of items can easily be bought at any given time.



There is also a matter of accessibility. Simply having ''enough slots to fit items in'' is not enough if you access your storage often. You also need to be able to sort it all so you can quickly find what you need.

Its just a whinging point for people who want freebies. They give you more than enough to play the market by default. The exuse that this allows you to earn more and therefore buy runs is a piss poor straw man.

Uh-huh. The people who reason that retainers earn you an advantage, are actually the people who already make a lot gil in the first place. (in part due to their retainers)
How would we want freebies?


Your argumentation makes no sense.

<Shrugs> I've just been trying to understand why this is an issue.

So the basic reason I don't get the issue is the fact that I'm not a dedicated crafter and there for don't have a reason to play the markets.

As a dedicated high end crafter I can afford to only keep a few materials around. (that is, if I wanted to increase my costs/reduce my income) It is precisely the low level crafters that dont have much gil that really need to stock up on materials.

Because they cannot just buy items off the mb when the need arises.


As such im surprised you use a weak argument like this. If you dont care for having items, whether its for selling them or using them; then ofcourse you dont care about inventory space.