Astrologian buffs confirmed

[Ghishlain]

Sorry for the giant wall of text / flame fest in here, just gonna get this out on the table now.

He did not disagree with Vlad any. He just gave a 1 sentence reply without even discussing the topic and just sweeping the question under the rug. We can all disagree with views others may have but just to demean someone's opinion as rhetoric is about as inaccurate as you can get. Both of you are also constantly shooting down other people's opinion which in essence is the virtue of a hypocrit.

The reply was meant to curb the discussion to going towards a "DPS versus not DPS" debate that this forum is quite fond of. That fact that you tried to state MP costs should be higher because there was too much time to DPS without being over geared would imply that you wanted to shift the discussion in that direction. Considering this is a thread about AST buffs, and considering that particular post has 13+ likes at the time of this post, I'd say a few posters agree about avoiding taking the conversation in that general direction.

Now, to respond to:

Which is probably why No one listens to you. If not mana we could always go with dnd version 1 with casts per day but that is draconian.

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Hypocrit much? I'm not sure you know what straw man argument means when it was a response against a troll.

If you think someone who can logically argue against and pick apart all your inane posts decrying WHM as a viable healer pre-3.0 gives you the right to call me a troll, you are sadly mistaken. We can agree to disagree, I will accept, respect, and appreciate that. But you have not once, in any post, have you given or presented a logical and factual retort to your own broad sweeping and uneducated opinions.

If you're going to call me a troll because I disagree with you and can make several retorts on various levels and grounds that you are wrong and you cannot defend yourself - that's not my fault. If you're so sensitive about people protesting your opinion and asinine enough to think you are beyond logic or retort - I pity you but I don't sympathize for you.

BTW, myself and Darkmoon Vael are still waiting for a credible reply to that thread.

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Again, I apologize for that wall of text. Just needed to get that out there. I've more or less stayed off the discussion because most of what I wanted to say had already been said and on top of that I hadn't leveled AST to 60 yet.

I hope the interpretation of the live letter is that we'll get specific abilities per cooldown based on stance, though I would love to see a stance dancing mechanic personally as this is what YoshiP originally said AST would have. If they can bring this back with a heavy cooldown, I would love to min-max and optimize that.

From a theorycraft stand point, I was no where near impressed by Collective Unconsciousness and Celestial Opposition - so I hope they fix that.

[SuzakuCMX]

Hypocrit much? I'm not sure you know what straw man argument means when it was a response against a troll.

Strawman argument: A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument which was not advanced by that opponent.

What Ghislain said:

Let's not get into a debate that we've had before that hasn't had a resolution because it's off-topic for this thread and won't go anywhere.

What you thought he said:

Healers shouldn't be gated by mana so they can spam as many abilities as they want

What you argued:

What's the point of mana then?

I think calling your argument a strawman is entirely appropriate, and calling me a hypocrite or Ghishlain a troll inflammatory.

[Teleste]

Yay! Happy news! Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[Heinel]

To say on topic, while it's still unclear what sort of buff they were implying, at least it sounds like they have outright said that ASTs will not get potency enhancers like Divine Seal. The changes they are going for will be "astrologian-like", whatever that means. From the tone, it appears they still don't want ASTs to be strong healers, and let their utility be the focus.

[TheWaywardWind]

To say on topic, while it's still unclear what sort of buff they were implying, at least it sounds like they have outright said that ASTs will not get potency enhancers like Divine Seal. The changes they are going for will be "astrologian-like", whatever that means.

That's sort of disappointing, seeing as AST could really profit from some sort of potency enhancer. Too often when I'm playing AST I find myself longing for the effects of Divine Seal. Oh well, we can only hope that What they provide will help improve MP management so you don't have to spam Benefic II to reach the same level as a Divine Sealed Cure II.

[Flinx]

Astrologian like? More RNG? lol

In a serious note I thin celestial opposition will gain different effects depending on which sect you currently are aligned to. As for Collective Unconscious not really sure how they'd actually change that.

[AlexanderThorolund]

Why are people bickering? Astrologian's are a peaceful and dignified people.

On topic: being able to hold cards out of battle would be very useful.

[Raminax]

Rawr!

Astrologians are healers.

Healers are (probably) the biggest divas around.

Ergo, Astrologians are divas.

Hiss.

Maybe a Noct'd Collective Unconscious will create an absorption barrier that nullifies a set amount of damage? I used to like that idea as Power Word: Barrier's first incarnation in WoW, but it was admittedly a nightmare to balance. Practical invincibility in small scale situations, doesn't even finish its animation when cast in high end raiding. Celestial Opposition in Noct could also fully refresh current shields to their original values, although considering how hard people tend to get hit, it would likely end up useless in practice.

[Inara_Rin]

This is super exciting! I knew SE would address the AST, I love how quick and responsive they are with issues. I'm not the greatest AST but I love the class with a passion and those changes will be well received.

[Vlady]

I did answer your questions. You just keep following up with new pointless questions. White mage didn't have a version of lustrate back pre xpansion and they do now so my issue is quelled.

You coming on a thread about Astros and flaming me then demanding I answer your question when you ignore my answer also claiming I am trying to alter the topic of the thread makes you a hypocrit yes.