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  1. #61
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    Venthas Drakskyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by VitalSuit View Post
    Spamming Malefic 2, combust 2, combust, and aero drains my mana faster than spamming Bio 2, Bio, miasma, shadowflare, maisma 2, and broil does on my SCH. Their mp sustain is atrocious.
    Are you saying their MP usage is...astronomical? But I do agree, in all seriousness, that their MP sustain is rather lackluster.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Please, let's not start this rhetoric again.
    Which is probably why No one listens to you. If not mana we could always go with dnd version 1 with casts per day but that is draconian.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Which is probably why No one listens to you. If not mana we could always go with dnd version 1 with casts per day but that is draconian.
    Strawman please.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Which is probably why No one listens to you. If not mana we could always go with dnd version 1 with casts per day but that is draconian.
    You apparently haven't seen his posts.
    The only people who don't listen to him are those dead set on pushing their vendetta on here.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Strawman please.
    Hypocrit much? I'm not sure you know what straw man argument means when it was a response against a troll.
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  6. #66
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    Fran Serene
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Hypocrit much? I'm not sure you know what straw man argument means when it was a response against a troll.
    from what he posts i don't see how he is a troll, how about you back up your accusation with some proof. cause the only troll i see is you
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  7. #67
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    Viva Diva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Hypocrit much? I'm not sure you know what straw man argument means when it was a response against a troll.
    How is SuzakuCMX a hypocrite? How is Ghishlain a troll? Disagreeing with you doesn't make him a troll.
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  8. #68
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    He did not disagree with Vlad any. He just gave a 1 sentence reply without even discussing the topic and just sweeping the question under the rug. We can all disagree with views others may have but just to demean someone's opinion as rhetoric is about as inaccurate as you can get. Both of you are also constantly shooting down other people's opinion which in essence is the virtue of a hypocrit.
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    Last edited by Galdous; 07-12-2015 at 10:23 AM.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    He did not disagree with Vlad any. He just gave a 1 sentence reply without even discussing the topic and just sweeping the question under the rug. We can all disagree with views others may have but just to demean someone's opinion as rhetoric is about as inaccurate as you can get. Both of you are also constantly shooting down other people's opinion which in essence is the virtue of a hypocrit.
    There have been countless threads created here about healer dps. Given that his points were completely off topic it becomes just so for people wanting to read feedback about Astrologian buffs.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    He did not disagree with Vlad any. He just gave a 1 sentence reply without even discussing the topic and just sweeping the question under the rug. We can all disagree with views others may have but just to demean someone's opinion as rhetoric is about as inaccurate as you can get. Both of you are also constantly shooting down other people's opinion which in essence is the virtue of a hypocrit.
    The original reply was
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Please, let's not start this rhetoric again.
    to
    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    Mana should be a precious commodity. Honestly if healers have enough mana to dps without a hitch in content they do not overgear then mana costs should be tweaked higher.
    This is an offtopic post that is seemingly wanting to cause the typical "To DPS or Not to DPS" that you see here on the healer forums, much of which Ghishlain has tried to reach across both isles to help point out the bonuses to both.
    Do you blame ANYONE who doesn't want this topic to go shift towards on DPS'ing to push their Pro-DPS or Anti-DPS rhetoric? Even if unintentionally?
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