Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
Your argument is invalid.

Everybody scales from Battle Litany.

Black Mage burst higher than Bards. (I have bursted for 2379 DPS on a dummy with no party, just myself)

Everybody scales extremely high from stacking buffs. BLM with Voiced Foe, RS, Potion, TA, Battle Litany, Leylines, Enochian and Selene goes from 1x damage to 1.6632. They also gain 18% Attack speed from Leylines and Fey Winds and they get 15% Crit. If you look at the base 280 Potency from F4. It goes to 504 with Astral Fire III. With 1.6632 multiplier, it goes to 838.2528 Potency per F4. I cast 6 of those also and I did not mention that Potion I use that is multiplied by everything.

You scale well with Crit and that's good for your job. Saying that SMN lose from short fights is also invalid. Summoners have the biggest AoE arsenal in the game right now. Bane, Painflare, Deathflare, Shadowflare, Miasma II.

If Demolish is on both targets, Rockbreaker from Monks is better than Snap Punch and is viable because it's 2 minutes and 40 seconds.

You are trying to find flaws where there is not. If a Bard can do as much damage than another job in a fight, regardless 1 or 2 mobs, the job is not broken.
To begin with I was discussing how the damage was compared to the other dps.
Second there was no blackmage in there and I was pointing out highest burst pre 3.0 if you read I point out it dropped now but it is still very high burst.
Third pointing out they managed to do good damage doesn't keep in account how the job actually plays, rather that it's possible to do highly obnoxious things to put out good numbers so numbers alone don't mean a job is fine.

Some bonus points, someone scaling from crit doesn't equal scaling well from crit. Bard gains a free OGCD attack every time they crit with a dot, having two targets with 2 dots on each with increased crit rate is 4x scaling on dots sure other jobs get that too, but bard scales another 4 times because of proccing bloodletters more that's a different tier of scaling compared to any other job.

Turn 10 back in the day bard could be highest dps easily during the add phase unless (you were doing the aoe strat for BLM/SMN by bane/flare/holy) why? Because Bards scale so well on multi mob fights.
That part did not change.

The part where bard had their playstyle thrown around however and feels like shit even though you can outpud numbers which this point is about require perfect settings to be on par with others where they should be due to playstyle change is.