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  1. #31
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    Ldlv's Avatar
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    Veind Aethervale
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    The only time I use it is when I'm soloing or doing A rank hunt. Broil > ED > repeat. I can use ED up to 9 times.
    I never use it in party that needs healing. Handling a big risk with a bigger risk is a bit unreasonable imho.

    This oshi- button requires 2 steps to be actually in use (for Lustrate or Indomitability), which is not motion delay wise and not quite good considering it's our lv 60 spell.

    And it's actually not really worth the time:
    - I have to spend time to press Dissipation,
    - and later spend another Swiftcast, (heck, I need to save/prepare to use it for Raise in a drowning party)
    - summon Fairy.

    In a case I need to burn Lustrate or Indomitability, and later it will require me to spend another 1k+ MP to summon Fairy? No, I'm not going to spend another 1k+ MP and my Swiftcast in a really dire situation.
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  2. #32
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    Viviza's Avatar
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    Viviza Viza
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Benedictrine View Post
    The argument of HPS is irrelevant in most content because you're factoring in non existent heals by thinking like that.
    ??? What is this.
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  3. #33
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    LStarbreeze's Avatar
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    Una Gloriana
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    So disappointing. I was expecting the faeries to learn new spells after lv 50, at least one, something like Enkindle maybe. Nope, send her away instead. I know Emergency Tactics is useful, but I feel like it should be called White Mage Tactics, either that or Indo. Both is just too much burst healing, and then no fairy for a healing potency boost? Scholar should be about mitigation and the fairies, rather than outputting big heals. Seriously, after lv 50 it feels like Sch is a totally different job than what I thought.
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  4. #34
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    Kerrigen's Avatar
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    Character
    Ebi Frye
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 80
    I can't really think of any "oh crap!" situation where it might be useful right now.
    The worst thing about the skill is its lack of synergy with... Itself. It gives you 3 stacks of AF that you can use on heals that aren't affected by its healing potency buff, at a high (delayed) MP cost, plus Swiftcast. It's literally backwards.

    I'm guessing it's going to be a little bit better when planned in situations where you'd switch fairies mid-fight anyway (I used to switch between Selene and Eos in T12 P3 and T13 P3, I could probably have used it there), but I'm not sure how practical it would be not having access to their skills for 30s.

    It's also an okay skill to use when you know your fairy is going to die for whatever reason I guess, but that shouldn't happen when you're familiar with an encounter.

    It's currently either too niche or straight-up bad, but the math behind it certainly doesn't look like it's in its favor. It's conceptually an interesting skill but the balance behind it is off. I think I would probably find it decent if it gave back enough MP to re-summon my fairy when it's over or something like that.
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    Last edited by Kerrigen; 07-10-2015 at 12:54 PM.

  5. #35
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    fanservice's Avatar
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Was thinking about a writeup as to why I just don't use it, but I found this instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zari View Post
    I find it a useless skill except in ridiculous emergencies that shouldnt even happen in the first place, and then if the boss or mobs that caused the emergency is still there afterwards, you lose a huge amount of your healing (and/or buffs from selene) until dissipation is over
    And then have to waste a swiftcast and a ton of mp to get the fairy back
    Cool concept, but impracticality incarnate. Jesus...
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  6. #36
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    Key Burz
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    what if instead of sacrificing her, it put a silence on her for 30 seconds that you cant dispell
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  7. #37
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    In today's Q&A, this came up:

    Q22. I don't understand the benefit of absorbing your fairy with scholar’s Dissipation. Could you tell us how to use this?

    A22. This is mainly to recover Aetherflow stacks. This isn't something we envisioned to be used frequently. Instead it is an ability that can play a strong role in emergency situations.


    Hopefully they will still consider adjustments after they check their metrics and likely find that "not frequently" really means "almost never" in this case.

    If I want an ability of highly questionable usefulness that is likely to leave me in a worse position than I was in prior activating it, I'll definitely hit this one.
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 07-10-2015 at 09:39 PM.

  8. #38
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    Wizarus's Avatar
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    Justin Tymes
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    ??? What is this.
    I think what he's saying is optimal healing isn't required in most, if any, content right now. Yes, with Eos you'd most certainly heal more over time then when you use Dissipate, but if using Dissipate gets you over the hump, it doesn't really matter since you've stabilized. HEaling over Time would only truly come into really play when Mana management is involved, and SCH, for the most part, has no trouble with MP management.
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  9. #39
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post

    Hopefully they will still consider adjustments after they check their metrics and likely find that "not frequently" really means "almost never" in this case.

    If I want an ability of highly questionable usefulness that is likely to leave me in a worse position than I was in prior activating it, I'll definitely hit this one.
    It's useless because if you need it your group is already screwed.

    I'd like to see something like:
    Dissipation: Orders pet away. No healing potency buff. Simultaneously applies buff and debuff:
    Buff: Aetherflow abilities do not consume aether stacks for 15s (maybe 10?)
    Debuff: Fairy cannot be resummoned for 30s
    CD: 180s --> 300s

    This would still be an emergency button, but at least you could use it without having to use its stated purpose (aetherflow stacks) to get enough MP back to justify getting rid of your fairy.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 07-10-2015 at 10:03 PM.

  10. #40
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    Teno's Avatar
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    There's a very similar thread on japanese forums, and they also all complain about this badly-designed spell. Unfortunately the fix won't come for 3.05.
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