Thoughts on level 60 scholar ability?

[Tashim]

One thing to consider, is that using Energy Drain twice will give you the mana to summon the pet, but you get three stacks of aetherflow.

Also, if you sacrifice, er, dissipate the fairy while whispering dawn is running, you wont really miss her heals as much. You'll still get 21s of regen, so there is really only 9 or 10 seconds without support from the pet.

With Fey Illumination, then whispering dawn, then dissipate, Adlo is far more potent. I've had well over 5k crits with it (which is a 10k galvanize).

In Alexander, since accuracy requirements are so low, you wont miss with energy drain, so its a fairly safe bet to eat the fairy and burn a few energy drains to get a net gain of mana out of it. However in Ravana, (and even some of the L60 dungeons), accuracy is a concern, as Energy Drain can miss.

[ckc22]

Not sure why people are hating on this skill...

Because it's bad for reasons that have been gone over again and again in this thread.

You get a stack of aether ever 60s. Most of the time I'm burning my last charge on a ED to get it back on CD.

If you need extra aetherstacks you should get better at managing them, not use an ability that gimps you for 30s-1min.

Other corrections: 30s is about 10 embraces, and the aether stacks from dissipate do not grant mp.

One thing to consider, is that using Energy Drain twice will give you the mana to summon the pet, but you get three stacks of aetherflow.

Per the dev team - the main point is the stacks. If you have to use 2/3 of the stacks on energy drain to justify the hidden mana cost of the ability and the healing potency doesn't make up for the loss of eos/selene then how exactly is this an "emergency healing CD" in any way?

[Miyu20]

I haven't read this entire thread but I read the first 3 pages and the last page.

I found one good use for it that I never really thought of until I really needed it. When one dies due to a tank not picking up aggro or you make a mistake somehow and die. You are revived. If you're lucky enough to revive with an aetherflow stack and have Swiftcast up as well, Use Aetherflow to get back enough Mana to swiftcast your fairy and be energy draining off GCD of summoning your fairy. Use Energy Drains or Lustrates depending on how well your Secondary healer is doing keeping up with heals, and then after you do this, heals should be more managable for the other healer if he's semi-competent.

Blow your Fairy CDs (I'm hoping you would have picked Eos over Selene for this reason) or at least Rouse + Whispering Dawn as if the current situation is really shaky, you might not have enough time to wait for fairy to use all of her CDs, Then Dissipate for another three stacks and use 1 more for around 4 Energy Drains and your MP Pool by this should be around 5-6k and your Aetherflow will be about half to 3/4s on its way to another use and then your MP will be back. This had to be done during an A4 run as I was hit with three lasers from Carnage.

Dissipation might not be intuitive but I find it is the best way to recover your mana, at post 170 levels my mana went from 0 being revived using Aetherflow and 6 stacks of Energy Drain from the first Aetherflow through the 3 stacks Dissipation gives you to over 8k Mana. This is the strength of Dissipation and I don't know if I've seen any other Scholar use it like this. Is there not anyone else who has seen this use for Dissipation?

[Gallus]

Yep, it's terrible, and I honestly think (and hope) it's going to be reworked sooner or later. I was thinking, that it would be useful maybe when you died, and are rezzed...you need mana fast...but nope, because you need to explicitly summon your fairy and kill it xD.

Even if your party is taking ridiculous amounts of AOE damage, it won't matter, because you can only indomitability twice every minute and I can't think of a single fight that forces a SCH to say burn 4-5 lustrates in 20 seconds other than that one battle in specific you are not yet familiar with. But who on earth would sacrifice their fairy on a savage turn they are not familiar with lol now that MP management is more a thing than ever? I have 12k mana and an Adloquium costs 1k+ mana (so my total mana is roughly 12 adloquiums). Back in T13 at level 50, I'd have around 5400 mana and an adloquium would cost around 300 mana (so around 18 adloquiums...basically, in 3.0, 50% less mana and 50% less mana regeneration, so locking your fairy for the next 30 seconds isn't very bright imo, even more so when the trade off is insultingly poor -20% bugged more healing with unaffected indomitability and lustrate and 3 stacks of aetherflow).

[Fricca]

Because it's bad for reasons that have been gone over again and again in this thread.
You get a stack of aether ever 60s. Most of the time I'm burning my last charge on a ED to get it back on CD.
If you need extra aetherstacks you should get better at managing them, not use an ability that gimps you for 30s-1min.
Other corrections: 30s is about 10 embraces, and the aether stacks from dissipate do not grant mp.

Pretty obvious using dissipate doesnt give you mp, I'm talking about Energy drain and the fact that you can use your stack over your mp to heal... And by no means am I having trouble managing my stacks, like I said I use Dissipation regularly. I guess it depends on your playstyle. Overall I would choose to use this regularly rather than save it cos like what many of the people here are saying, it's not necessarily an oh-shit skill. As for me, its more of a dps and a healing thing. The increased healing is good with Emergency Tactics and Deployment Tactics among others. It really depends on how you look at it and right now I'm not convinced 10-some fairy heals is an sch gimp specially when you can use this skill when something stupid long is casting (e.g. bloody fuller) and resummon your fairy shortly after. The only 'downside' for me with this skill would prolly be using swiftcast to cast my fairy back rather than keep it or use it on shadowflare, but even this is optional.. i could simply recast my fairy on some downtime.

[ckc22]

I've said multiple times it can be useful for dps either in opener or at burn phase. I'll add transition to that as well. You'll excuse me if I'm not thrilled that the best use for my lvl 60 job ability supposed to be "emergency healing cd" is for dps...

The point is that if you need to be putting out healing it's not a good ability.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Maybe for a super buffed succor/adlo? Have yet to find an opportunity in current content to use this ability.

[Trespar]

Best removed from your bar because you probably won't even remember it exists because in a "normal" situation, it makes you worse and in a critical situation you'll probably wipe anyway.

Okay, I'll admit, I recovered from a wipe with it when my party messed up and blew everybody up, but as I said last time, I don't want an ability that's only half useful when others mess up.

[Marcu18]

Either rework the effect: Increase magic potency to at least 60% or replace it with a ability Best Friend or Sidekick: Summons a retainer with the highest ilevel.

Eos and Selene make scholar stand out and make healing ALOT easier than white mage and astrologian.

[Roxas_Andrade]

Either rework the effect: Increase magic potency to at least 60% or replace it with a ability Best Friend or Sidekick: Summons a retainer with the highest ilevel.

Eos and Selene make scholar stand out and make healing ALOT easier than white mage and astrologian.

The simplest solution in my opinion is: "While under the effect of dissipation, you can summon your fairy for no mp cost."

This solves the problem of DPSing (the fairy will be back to help), the healing buff not being enough, the fairy skills that you'd loose, you gain aetherflow stacks, you loose your swiftcast bringing the fairy back, you loose a couple of seconds on the process (that would be unvaluable in an emergency).

This way it would be a good risk/reward skill for an emergency.