Please Fix EXP in high level roulette.

[Ladon]

They did this on purpose because they don't want people grinding on the level 50 dungeons.

[Arkista]

They did this on purpose because they don't want people grinding on the level 50 dungeons.

lol. How many level 50 dungeons are there? What purpose is there for not giving EXP in a level 50 dungeon? None. There should be no reason why we don't receive EXP from a level 50 dungeon.

Also who the heck is going to grind a level 50 dungeon to 60? No one. Sure people might grind for out to 52, but most people are better off doing N Than Fates.

I did one of the roulette once and it gave me zero Law so it's kinda useless for leveling below 60 job if I want Laws? Isn't it suppose to give Laws bonus when we have at least one job at 60?

Nah, just for level 60 you get the Law Bonus.

[XLauncher]

They did this on purpose because they don't want people grinding on the level 50 dungeons.

Instead, we grind on the sub level 50 fates in North Thanalan. Genius.

[Kaedan94]

Instead, we grind on the sub level 50 fates in North Thanalan. Genius.

You should be saying that about those who grind 51+ in NT.... yeah, geniuses...

There are much better ways to level than grinding for 14k a pop (~20k for Dark Devices last stage and Chimera). A single dungeon 51+ gives 300k+ XP.

So you would need about 21 FATEs to equal 1 HW dungeon. And having to queue is irrelevant since you have to queue for High level roulette too.

Certainly spend your filler time while waiting for queue by FATEing or levequesting, or even hunting. But if FATEing in NT is your primary form of leveling, it's the absolute worst way you could grind from 50-60.

Did you need EXP for those thousands of Dungeons. Didn't think so, so why does it matter how many dungeons you ran. It doesn't. Not like you actually needed EXP at level 50 pre 3.0.

It wouldn't hurt to put EXP in level 50 dungeons, and when you hit level 53/54 the exp starts to decrease to the point where its not worth grinding.

You're missing the point. People are complaining that they are having to run level 50 dungeons, but don't get XP for them. I and many others had to run the same 50 dungeons and didn't get XP for them. The fact we didn't technically need it is irrelevant.

And yes, it would hurt to put XP in 50 dungeons. Because all the new players would be highly over-leveled for HW content once they finished the dungeons. And people would ignore the 51-53 content in HW.

So, if they did put XP in 50 dungeons, it would have to be a very small amount, no more than Aurum Vale. And at that point it's still better to switch to HW dungeons once you're 51 anyway.

50-51 is the only period you have to worry about, and that can easily be filled with AV, DD, or FATEing.

[Mhikail]

You should be saying that about those who grind 51+ in NT.... yeah, geniuses...

There are much better ways to level than grinding for 14k a pop (~20k for Dark Devices last stage and Chimera). A single dungeon 51+ gives 300k+ XP.

So you would need about 21 FATEs to equal 1 HW dungeon. And having to queue is irrelevant since you have to queue for High level roulette too.

Certainly spend your filler time while waiting for queue by FATEing or levequesting, or even hunting. But if FATEing in NT is your primary form of leveling, it's the absolute worst way you could grind from 50-60.

They don't.
They grind to 56 and switch dungeons.
Thinking SE had an oversight imo, but now they are beefin' EXP up in new FATE's.
Just hope the increase is good...N.Than is a small area, with a lot fo FATE pop-ups.
At least we can fly FATE to FATE in new places...

[XLauncher]

You should be saying that about those who grind 51+ in NT.... yeah, geniuses...

There are much better ways to level than grinding for 14k a pop (~20k for Dark Devices last stage and Chimera). A single dungeon 51+ gives 300k+ XP.

So you would need about 21 FATEs to equal 1 HW dungeon. And having to queue is irrelevant since you have to queue for High level roulette too.

Certainly spend your filler time while waiting for queue by FATEing or levequesting, or even hunting. But if FATEing in NT is your primary form of leveling, it's the absolute worst way you could grind from 50-60.

You should doublecheck your numbers.

[Clarkamite]

You should be saying that about those who grind 51+ in NT.... yeah, geniuses...

There are much better ways to level than grinding for 14k a pop (~20k for Dark Devices last stage and Chimera). A single dungeon 51+ gives 300k+ XP.

These numbers are wrong. Any normal fate there gives about 21k and some change. Your Dark Devices chain (assuming you get gold each time) goes from 10k all the way up to I believe 45k. In total, it gives about 80k. Gorgi (which takes roughly 60 seconds to kill at high traffic) gives you over 51k. Therefore, grinding out fates, AT LEAST UNTIL 54, in Northern Thanalan is definitely the way to go. I remember doing the new dungeons on my first 60 and I'll be honest I didn't think any of them really offered much experience until the Gub Library. Not noticeable anyways.

Basically every fate in NT is a new HW sidequest worth of XP but only done much faster and in much higher frequency than any of the sidequests can be done. Not to mention, there's no traveling to different zones or talking to multiple NPC's. It's just 2 minutes, 21k. 3 minutes, 45k. Easy.

[CorbinDallas]

And yes, it would hurt to put XP in 50 dungeons. Because all the new players would be highly over-leveled for HW content once they finished the dungeons. And people would ignore the 51-53 content in HW.

Considering every dungeon from 51-60 is mandatory (Yes, even Dusk Vigil, unless for some insane reason you don't want to unlock flight), that point is outright false.

[Dorfentyme]

They did this on purpose because they don't want people grinding on the level 50 dungeons.

Source? People could just grind Aurum Vale or DD still if they wanted. If Square cared that much about how people leveled, they wouldn't have made FATEs so terrible in HW(Yes I'm aware of the recent dev post about it)

There are plenty of ways to level already, thanks. Let's focus on more important changes, like class balancing and skill issues rather than asking for changes to an issue that doesn't actually exist.

More options is always better than less options. Not to mention, do you really think their engine is so bad that it would take them an extended amount of time to add experience to trash mobs in level 50 dungeons?