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    So I've been playing ninja for awhile now and haven't experience any of the issues described in this thread, but I'm curious about a few things.

    Can I just click a mudra combination all at once and click ninjitsu and then just wait for the server to do all the ninja animations for each button and then cast the ability? Or is there some delay that I have to wait for? Normally I just do it slowly to avoid it thinking I did it wrong, but I don't actually know if that is necessary or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzyData View Post
    So I've been playing ninja for awhile now and haven't experience any of the issues described in this thread, but I'm curious about a few things.

    Can I just click a mudra combination all at once and click ninjitsu and then just wait for the server to do all the ninja animations for each button and then cast the ability? Or is there some delay that I have to wait for? Normally I just do it slowly to avoid it thinking I did it wrong, but I don't actually know if that is necessary or not.
    The cooldown on each mudra is 0.5 seconds. Fast enough to do it in a steady "tap, tap, tap" pace, but slow enough that you can't just mash them all at once. I kind of feel like if you have been playing NIN for a while you would know this but I won't cast judgment on that. You should try it though (press them in succession as fast as you can).

    Depending how long "a while" is, you may not have experienced the rollback issues yet. Please look forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    . I kind of feel like if you have been playing NIN for a while you would know this but I won't cast judgment on that.
    Well, I'm level 58. The system just feels really sluggish so it's hard to tell what's intended and what isn't. Like I can click an ability before it is even off cooldown and wait a little bit and it will get used by itself as if there was some ability queue. Or if I click an ability and then immediately click another ability in a combo before the global cooldown is up and then wait it will go off by itself.

    I have very low latency, but the system always feels weird to me. Perhaps since I'm so used to how WoW works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzyData View Post
    Well, I'm level 58. The system just feels really sluggish so it's hard to tell what's intended and what isn't. Like I can click an ability before it is even off cooldown and wait a little bit and it will get used by itself as if there was some ability queue. Or if I click an ability and then immediately click another ability in a combo before the global cooldown is up and then wait it will go off by itself.

    I have very low latency, but the system always feels weird to me. Perhaps since I'm so used to how WoW works.
    Well there is actually an ability queue (for that reason), which is honestly a godsend as you only really need to hit a button once (instead of spamming the same key for it to go off the moment your GCD goes off cooldown).

    The queue begins at 3/4 of your GCD. So anytime after that you can begin queueing skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    Well there is actually an ability queue (for that reason), which is honestly a godsend as you only really need to hit a button once (instead of spamming the same key for it to go off the moment your GCD goes off cooldown).

    The queue begins at 3/4 of your GCD. So anytime after that you can begin queueing skills.
    That's some very useful information. I thought the game was just derpy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzyData View Post
    That's some very useful information. I thought the game was just derpy.
    Since you are asking these sorts of questions it is worth mentioning that you can fit off-GCD skills inbetween the GCD timers (never played WoW beyond level 5 so not sure if this is the norm), but skills such as Jugulate and Mug you generally want to use between your GCD weaponskills. The animation will clip, but the effect will still go off on these skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    Since you are asking these sorts of questions it is worth mentioning that you can fit off-GCD skills inbetween the GCD timers (never played WoW beyond level 5 so not sure if this is the norm), but skills such as Jugulate and Mug you generally want to use between your GCD weaponskills. The animation will clip, but the effect will still go off on these skills.
    I did notice those. WoW has off GCD abilities as well like shadowstep for rogues. It seems like you could also use mudras inbetween the GCD of other normal abilities too. Like I would use spinning edge, gust slash and then immediately after gustslash goes off I can already be casting a mudra for suiton then as soon as suiton goes off I can cast both Aeolian Edge and Trick attack at the same time because trick attack is off GCD and the normal GCD for abilities was resetting while I was casting a mudra.

    There seems to be way too many kinds of cooldowns which makes it feel clunky and inconsistent to me.
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    Last edited by IzzyData; 07-10-2015 at 03:58 AM.