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  1. #501
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rivez View Post
    I don't think I need to get to 60 to see how clear that is
    I would highly recommend it.
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  2. #502
    Player Jeckyl_Tesla's Avatar
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    Cap'n Jack
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    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Rivez View Post
    I wasn't trying to parse damage as such there as I was seeing if it should be kept up at all times.

    If everything is on cooldown and you only have reload and main combo then no it is best to take it off.

    I don't think I need to get to 60 to see how clear that is
    Though some things need to be seen with the new changes, I don't think autos will simply make our GB redundant, especially with Gauss Round and Ricochet. Gauss Round is a 20 second CD that may make up for it.

    Get to 60 and parse it and let us know. Napkin math is nice, sometimes, but more thorough experimentation is needed with multiple parses in multiple scenarios to take the evidence from.
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  3. #503
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    Rivez Skydancer
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    Odin
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Mr Sayeth previously posted who is a level 60 was stating the same thing I was only with higher numbers.

    It seems that adding more stats to to percentages doesn't change percentages in maths. How odd.
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    Last edited by Rivez; 07-07-2015 at 11:55 PM.

  4. #504
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    Sayeth Steamwind
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    Cerberus
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sevyn View Post
    you are saying you get 350 DPS with AA? I haven't had the chance to login and test the new stuff out but i know they didn't change our auto attacks last night. In i177 gear with Ravex weapon i parsed 150 DPS with only auto attacks last night, so I'm not sure how you are getting 350 dps from auto attacks. Please stop spreading misinformation.

    edit: my 150 AA parse was 3 minutes. Did this so I could see how much auto attacks actually do out of our overall dps.

    Wrote the numbers as i saw them on the dummy, it's not misinformation.

     The striking dummy takes 637 damage.
    You hit the striking dummy for 345 damage

    From the battle log :\
    p.s. never talked about DPS, just talking about the damage.
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    Last edited by Sayeth; 07-07-2015 at 11:54 PM.

  5. #505
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    Rivez Skydancer
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    Odin
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    Machinist Lv 60
    "Though some things need to be seen with the new changes, I don't think autos will simply make our GB redundant, especially with Gauss Round and Ricochet. Gauss Round is a 20 second CD that may make up for it.

    Get to 60 and parse it and let us know. Napkin math is nice, sometimes, but more thorough experimentation is needed with multiple parses in multiple scenarios to take the evidence from."

    Ah very sorry I probably wasn't clear before

    After trying it I found you want GB on on your bursts, its definitely better but you want it off with nothing left and just attacking is what I found.
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    Last edited by Rivez; 07-08-2015 at 12:11 AM.

  6. #506
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    Sevyn Ishimael
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    Machinist Lv 60
    i think it'll be a mix of both on and off to varying degrees that will be our true max damage (the way it should be). It'd be really boring otherwise and not as much of a skillcap.

    Also Sayeth I thought you meant you parsed 345 dps over a certain time length not 1 hit lol.
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  7. #507
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    Sayeth Steamwind
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    Cerberus
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sevyn View Post
    i think it'll be a mix of both on and off to varying degrees that will be our true max damage (the way it should be). It'd be really boring otherwise and not as much of a skillcap.

    Also Sayeth I thought you meant you parsed 345 dps over a certain time length not 1 hit lol.
    No, no lol. That's why i was asking for some explanations, because all i can see is the damage i see on dummies and fights.
    Without any damage cooldown and ammunitions i see the GB a bit frustrating with 850 damage/every Split Shot without any lucky proc.
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  8. #508
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    Kaelan Loire
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    Lamia
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    Machinist Lv 60
    I guess its quite possible that gauss barrel should only be on to pop ricochet.. Basically you get 2 gauss rounds and one ricochet before you can turn it back off. (might as well wait the 5 seconds before taking the GB off). I need to run some checks to see if that help/hurts dps vs full time GB
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  9. #509
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    Zenna Rose
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by airshowboat View Post
    whoa, 800 dps at i155? I do about 860 at i171... I thought the ilvl requirement for alex was 170?
    I'm doing about the same as you at exactly i170. And yeah I'm pretty sure to pug it it's i170, unless you can queue with a premade group and get around that? lol
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  10. #510
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    Cup Bot
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    Zalera
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    The new Guass change gives you plenty of reason to stance dance whenever you have your procs and ogcds available. Either way the class feels much better to play.
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