BRD/MCH Fixed!

[sirDarts]

If you value mobility over DPS, go for it.

[Twilite]

If you value mobility over DPS, go for it.

Can't DPS if you're dead.

[Dante_V]

Can't DPS if you're dead.

Yes because having a cast bar is the same as being dead.

[RichardButte]

Yes because having a cast bar is the same as being dead.

I think the whole thing will depend upon how much movement Alex will require of people, and we should know a lot more about that shortly.

[TheMunimai]

Can't DPS if you're dead.

stop moaning and learn to move like casters and healers do - last I checked they had cast bars and weren't dead.

[Snugglebutt]

stop moaning and learn to move like casters and healers do - last I checked they had cast bars and weren't dead.

If people wanted to play like a caster they would of made one instead because at least they have extremely high DPS output unlike BRD. Currently it feels like for many the BRD now plays like a caster (stuck to the ground while 'casting' your skills and skills cancelled if move at all)...only the new BRD caster class is doing a small fraction of the DPS output of that other BLM caster class so I can completely understand how these changes have ruined the BRD class for many. BLM for example is not dead despite using cast timers because it does a shit load of damage, bards with cast timers and being rooted to the ground unless take a massive 'additional' DPS loss on top of the many other DPS losses get from both skill use debuffs, low WD and low potency so do not have that same luxury or that same benefit that other casters have.

[Lyaha]

stop moaning and learn to move like casters and healers do - last I checked they had cast bars and weren't dead.

Not the play style we picked a bard for.

[TheMunimai]

Not the play style we picked a bard for.

Style and playability has nothing to do with my point at all.

The person I originally quoted made the point that lack of mobility made bards dead .... My point was - just because you have to "Cast" doesn't make you dead at all.

[Yoruichi4478]

stop moaning and learn to move like casters and healers do - last I checked they had cast bars and weren't dead.

They're used to playing a class/job that has them and they chose them knowing that. Bards chose bard for multiple reasons, one, insta dps, knowing they wouldn't be as powerful as melee or casters but that's besides the point.
I will, however, reserve my judgment until I have tried these "fixes" myself. I will be curious to see what ppl think that have tried it out in a serious attempt to get the dps that ppl got accustomed to prior to HW. Also as I've not yet entered Alexander I have not seen all the mechanics to see how mobile brd/mch needs to be. If the content was designed around a lesser need to dodge or dodging but with time in-between to pop wm/gb on then maybe not such a bad thing. I would love to still know what they discussed when they were thinking up the HW abilities. Just curious.
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[ExiaQuanta]

Can't DPS if you're dead.

Turn off the song.
Dodge AoE
Put on song again since its instant
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Not dead