BRD/MCH look here

[Wavaryen]

So in other words, for people who hate the play style of caster bard. We get a nice big middle finger? Whatever.

[LunarEmerald]

So in other words, for people who hate the play style of caster bard. We get a nice big middle finger? Whatever.

Pretty much. It's either use WM or play something else because that's the intended way to play it.

[Pluvia]

Pretty much. It's either use WM or play something else because that's the intended way to play it.

Naw more like they look at it as Use it or don't but don't come complain to use about your subpar dps

[Panasync]

Pretty much. It's either use WM or play something else because that's the intended way to play it.

If the job was intended to be that way from the start, I would probably agree. The fact is that from 2.0 up until 3.0 that's not how the job was intended to play, MCH you could make the argument, BRD is a different story.

[xXRaineXx]

If the job was intended to be that way from the start, I would probably agree. The fact is that from 2.0 up until 3.0 that's not how the job was intended to play, MCH you could make the argument, BRD is a different story.

Finally someone with logical sense, players like Lunar are a plague here. For any longterm BRD's, these changes are *meteoractuallylandedinff7whichkilledeveryone* bad.

[Pluvia]

Finally someone with logical sense, players like Lunar are a plague here. For any longterm BRD's, these changes are *meteoractuallylandedinff7whichkilledeveryone* bad.

simple fix is to not use it and eat the damage loss

[xXRaineXx]

I already do that, I haven't used it in any occasion since I first tried it out at lvl50. I don't mind the damage loss, but that's NOT the issue.

This is going to create 2 factions in the core BRD system. The NON-Minuet and Minuet stance factions. This might lead to something similar to console wars where each side tries to flame each other down. I'm not saying this WILL happen, but if there are others like me; then there is a fair chance that it will. I don't want to see something like this happen to my beloved BRD...

[Wavaryen]

I already do that, I haven't used it in any occasion since I first tried it out at lvl50. I don't mind the damage loss, but that's NOT the issue.

I don't think it will be that bad. The problem is not the people who are playing the brd, but what the community thinks we offer them in groups. How often have you needed to use your support songs in group play? We will see how badly it will be needed in the new raid, but so far the mp is crazy high, and healers not been needing songs.

Point is that what we bring to groups is dps, and if we still can't do that well after the changes. We are going have a long drawn out wait.

[Wavaryen]

Pretty much. It's either use WM or play something else because that's the intended way to play it.

Bad Game design 101.Class homogenization and changing a core design on what makes a class fun is a great way to piss off fans. Well whatever, I am not a long term bard, as bard was the only class I enjoyed the combat style with. I will just go back to being a crafter/ah player.

Still, it blows that I at last found a fun play style just to have it changed so much that it is not the class I want anymore.

[ckc22]

So in other words, for people who hate the play style of caster bard. We get a nice big middle finger? Whatever.

IMO should have been expecting this. It was pretty obvious they weren't going to remove the skill - however, at least now you can actually use it decently/get a dps boost from it whereas before it was a tradeoff for nothing.