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  1. #21
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    Pluvia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyaha View Post
    I don't see how the extra 10% is gonna make up for heavily nerfing the new abilities, it's bad enough our play style gets changed, now we get even more punished in movement heavy fights.

    So much for positive changes.
    because its 10% to everything where the others are only potency nerfs to moves that have cds
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  2. #22
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    Panasync Dilaudid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyaha View Post
    I don't see how the extra 10% is gonna make up for heavily nerfing the new abilities, it's bad enough our play style gets changed, now we get even more punished in movement heavy fights.
    Well the 10% HS/WB/VB/IJ/BL/RoD/etc probably even it out if not put it over more, it's probably an increase inside of WM by a small margin, but a large loss to be outside now.
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    Amarant Ventonitrua
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyaha View Post
    I don't see how the extra 10% is gonna make up for heavily nerfing the new abilities, it's bad enough our play style gets changed, now we get even more punished in movement heavy fights.

    So much for positive changes.
    So, an overall 10% increase, with some adjustments for extremes, isn't a positive change? Before the servers are even back up? Really? I'm not even that negative. Lets give it a try! For both our classes! Also, grats on lvl Fifty-seven.
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    Raine Serafine
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    Ugh... BRD and MCH are going to require more than this to fix the dumphole they have been thrown into. But I am surprised these changes rolled out already, I expect more change to come, hopefully soon. I don't want to relearn BRD only to have it changed later.

    Personally, I think dropping Minuet completely is the best way to handle this situation and add another ability that works in a similar way (minus cast time) while still adding a risk factor. Guess we just gotta keep complaining until they do something lol This isn't something trivial like hair model clipping or farms, this is a major mechanic in the game that NEEDS to be addressed.
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  5. #25
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    Panasync Dilaudid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exosapien View Post
    So, an overall 10% increase, with some adjustments for extremes, isn't a positive change? Before the servers are even back up? Really? I'm not even that negative. Lets give it a try! For both our classes! Also, grats on lvl Fifty-seven.
    I think a lot of people hate the stance and weren't very concerned with damage to begin with, this is a pretty big punishment to them. That being said I don't think they'll go back on the whole WM thing.
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  6. #26
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by xXRaineXx View Post
    Ugh... BRD and MCH are going to require more than this to fix the dumphole they have been thrown into. But I am surprised these changes rolled out already, I expect more change to come, hopefully soon. I don't want to relearn BRD only to have it changed later.

    Personally, I think dropping Minuet completely is the best way to handle this situation and add another ability that works in a similar way (minus cast time) while still adding a risk factor. Guess we just gotta keep complaining until they do something lol This isn't something trivial like hair model clipping or farms, this is a major mechanic in the game that NEEDS to be addressed.
    Here is how they're looking at it you want damage near the other dps suck it up and get into WM They're dead set on making use WM and GB and that won't change anytime soon.
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  7. #27
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    Ultros
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    Gauss Barrel ・Recast time has been increased from 2.5 to 15 seconds.

    Then...That means were stuck with it on/off when we hit it doesn't it? So choose wisely?
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris View Post
    Gauss Barrel ・Recast time has been increased from 2.5 to 15 seconds.

    Then...That means were stuck with it on/off when we hit it doesn't it? So choose wisely?
    No the recast time is only to prevent you from rapidly switching it on and off you can take it off at anytime just can't put it on more then once per 15s
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  9. #29
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    Lyaha Mathis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exosapien View Post
    So, an overall 10% increase, with some adjustments for extremes, isn't a positive change? Before the servers are even back up? Really? I'm not even that negative. Lets give it a try! For both our classes! Also, grats on lvl Fifty-seven.
    I'm gonna give it a shot, but it's still not a play style change that I wanted, now the play style I've enjoyed got even more nerfed, can you at least see that as a negative?
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris View Post
    Gauss Barrel ・Recast time has been increased from 2.5 to 15 seconds.

    Then...That means were stuck with it on/off when we hit it doesn't it? So choose wisely?
    Means that if you turn on WM, you won't be able to turn it off right away. You have to plan carefully.
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