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  1. 07-07-2015 04:45 AM #1
    Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Not to say one class is better than the other but Luminiferous Aether and Shroud of Saints have one big difference. You can get off 3 LA's in the course of a 6-7 minute fight vs 2 SS in the same duration.
    How is that? Their cooldowns, durations, and potencies are exactly the same. The only difference is that LA doesn't have an enmity dump.
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  2. 07-07-2015 05:19 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    How is that? Their cooldowns, durations, and potencies are exactly the same. The only difference is that LA doesn't have an enmity dump.
    LA = 120s
    SS = 180s

    LA also does have an enmity dump.
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  3. 07-07-2015 05:22 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    LA = 120s
    SS = 180s

    LA also does have an enmity dump.
    No, I'm pretty confident (I will check tonight) that Shroud is also 120 seconds.
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  4. 07-07-2015 05:23 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    No, I'm pretty confident (I will check tonight) that Shroud is also 120 seconds.
    It is. Also, LA has a Quelling Strikes effect and does not shed any enmity already generated, which makes it much less useful.
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  5. 07-07-2015 05:24 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    No, I'm pretty confident (I will check tonight) that Shroud is also 120 seconds.
    This definitely could be outdated but this is what I am looking at.

    http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Shroud_of_Saints
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  6. 07-07-2015 05:25 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    LA = 120s
    SS = 180s

    LA also does have an enmity dump.
    Shroud of Saints is 120s, I'm afraid. For the enmity dump... well, it's not a dump: technically it reduces enmity generated. It's not a complete wash but if you're a few minutes into a fight....

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    No, I'm pretty confident (I will check tonight) that Shroud is also 120 seconds.
    Career WHM here. It's definitely 120s.
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  7. 07-07-2015 05:29 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Career WHM here. It's definitely 120s.
    Like I said the information I was looking at could be outdated. I haven't touched my WHM since HW.
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  8. 07-07-2015 07:30 AM #8
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    The info is not outdated. Its just that whm has enhanced shroud of saints trait that reduces recast to 120 sec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phileas View Post
    The info is not outdated. Its just that whm has enhanced shroud of saints trait that reduces recast to 120 sec.
    Wrong enhanced shroud of saints increases the potency of the regen from 60 to 80 the EXACT same as enhanced LA
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  10. 07-07-2015 05:27 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    LA = 120s
    SS = 180s

    LA also does have an enmity dump.
    LA does not have an enmity dump; it only reduces any further enmity generated after it's use.

    SS dumps enmity by cutting it in half.

    SS is also 120s, not 180s.

    LA = SS; except for the enmity portion, SS is better if you already have agro, LA is better if you're trying to reduce the enmity you create.

    The only thing LA has over SS is that you get it at an earlier level (lv 8 vs 38), which is a very moot point, since you should never really run out of MP until the later game/raids anyways.
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