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    Edellis's Avatar
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    Character
    Ixora Lepta
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyrusticae View Post
    Except the job HAS to have damage because it fills a dps role.

    DPS. Not support. Not support DPS. DPS.

    DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS
    blah blah blah QQ QQ QQ salty dehydrating river of tears

    You guys went 50 levels and hundreds of hours into 2.0's bard knowing you were DPS support before you even freaking capped the class, you went all of 2.0 endgame knowing this, you went from 50-60 knowing this as well and now you're still crying the same old song, pun so very much intended.

    You always had damage, you still have utility even if you think it's irrelevant (spoiler: it isn't)

    After we get patched you'll have even more damage, you'll still have utility

    If you want to play 2.0 bard, you're going to either have to wait for a private server or turn off minuet and suffer the DPS hit

    Whether or not the Barrage change was a buff or nerf is completely totally and utterly irrelevant, it was a mechanic change that was obviously intended to move the class into the position it's in now, along with greater scaling rewards on every stat in the game to affect weaponskills and NOT auto attacks.

    Will this thread ever become productive? God it's like a broken record of redundant tears in here. YES, Minuet needs a bit of a damage boost. After that, bard will be a-ok.


    As for every other complaint in here:
    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Damage, Mobility, Utility, pick 2.
    /thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    I really don't like you, you made no points at all. All the people saying that it is unfair to be able to move and dps or that you should not be able to has nothing backing it. It is bad game design to have classes play pretty much the same. In other mmos there is a class that can move and do skills, and they are just fine. The fact people think you should not be able to do it is laughable at its best, it shows they are closed minded on game design.

    Classes should be about play style choice. Range dps should be on par with each other, and will be from what devs are talking about. The fact they changed a class design around is the problem.

    If you guys don't like that both jp and us community is trying to get it changed back. Too bad I guess. Play a caster.
    1) tee hee deal with it

    2) tell me more about your expertise in game design, better yet tell square, maybe they'll hire you or something, whoooo knowwsss

    3) People who say we have no "PROOF" on why Ranged + Damage + Utility is a terrible idea, yeah, they clearly seem to forget that one calamity in FFXIV ARR's history where everyone was stacking BRD because there was literally no reason not to.

    4) When...were we arguing to change it back? You can still play without minuet, silly dilly. The (real) objective is more favorable BRD DPS, not to throw hissy fits because you have a minor cast time on your abilities now.
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    Last edited by Edellis; 07-07-2015 at 05:09 AM.

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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Teladi Bishop
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
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    I really don't like you, you made no points at all. All the people saying that it is unfair to be able to move and dps or that you should not be able to has nothing backing it. It is bad game design to have classes play pretty much the same. In other mmos there is a class that can move and do skills, and they are just fine. The fact people think you should not be able to do it is laughable at its best, it shows they are closed minded on game design.

    Classes should be about play style choice. Range dps should be on par with each other, and will be from what devs are talking about. The fact they changed a class design around is the problem.

    If you guys don't like that both jp and us community is trying to get it changed back. Too bad I guess. Play a caster.
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