Hopefully Alexander/Savage will be 24 mans.

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Then, in that case I can call in your education on previous games that have 24 player raids. I can say that you have little to no experience in them so you shouldn't doubt my opinion because you haven't done them.

I am not attempting to change something "already established" since you seem to have the magical ability of foresight and can see the future. I am trying to attempt to ask for more 24 player raids that are challenging.

What relevance has other games got on changing something in FFXIV? Do you want to change content in "them other games"? No, you want to change something in FFXIV. But if you want to play that game, Ive raided 80 person in EQ1, mained as Dark Elf Cleric. Raided upto and including first expansion of EQ2 mained as Dark Elf Shadowknight (still one of my fave tanking classes, using life taps and diseases to hold hate, and they could hold hate), Raided in AoC the first year when gear made little difference and blocking was active, not RNG based, if you didn't get the hang of it, you died, gear didnt carry you. Raided in LOTRO from launch and Mines of Moria, Raided in Swtor, cleared all, left before it went Free to play, as found it boringly easy, even the hardest setting we one shotted. Also in DCUO, we were clearing raids the same day they were released, getting server firsts. I could go on but none of that has any relevance to FFXIV. It's a different game.

Did you forget what thread title you posted? here, a reminder.

Hopefully Alexander/Savage will be 24 mans.

You are wanting to change something that is established as being 8 person content to 24 person content, because you find 8 person raids oring, even though you havnt experienced them when they were cutting edge (nerfed/echod does not count as the difficulty is drastically reduced).

Sorry to break your bubble, but they are more "raids" then definition then Coil is. Even if they are easier. Coil is still just a party fight.

My bubble is still in one piece, thankyouverymuch! Look under raids on the duty finder, it has *dumdum duuuuum" Coil. To SE it is a raid, thus it is a raid. Your definition is irrelevant.