SMN poorly implemented

[AiiroOkami]

Who manages their pet anymore, once its summoned? just leave it on auto pilot.
Not every pet should have DPS based abilities, thats not how it was in FF11.
Titan could have an AOE stoneskin for example.
I'm merely stating that SMN has moved away from its "SUMMONING" focus, and has just become another mage type dps class.

Why would I want a healing pet if I'm a DPS ? The Scholar exists for that...

Who manage their pets ? uhm...let me see...good SMNs maybe ? If you don't manage it, you're just plain bad and you should stop being a SMN.

Our SUMMONS, yes they are summons, do 20% or more of our DPS, it's a lot. Try not using your pet and see if you don't need your pet to do damages.

And yes I did play FFXI, and god I don't want to return to the SMN of this game, I don't want to be a sub-WHM, thanks

[chumsy]

Why would I want a healing pet if I'm a DPS ? The Scholar exists for that...

Who manage their pets ? uhm...let me see...good SMNs maybe ? If you don't manage it, you're just plain bad and you should stop being a SMN.

Our SUMMONS, yes they are summons, do 20% or more of our DPS, it's a lot. Try not using your pet and see if you don't need your pet to do damages.

And yes I did play FFXI, and god I don't want to return to the SMN of this game, I don't want to be a sub-WHM, thanks

FF11 SMN had its flaws, but it did one thing right which was diversify the pet abilities. I never said it should heal obviously SCH is there for that, there are other ways to do DPS indirectly its called "buffs" and SMN brought utility like garuda AOE blink skill. Not every DPS class has to be solely DPS, AKA BARD. I guess everyone's happy to be stuck with Garuda till the End of this game's life. Sure lets manage Contagion every minute when I have all my dots on the target..

[AiiroOkami]

FF11 SMN had its flaws, but it did one thing right which was diversify the pet abilities. I never said it should heal obviously SCH is there for that, there are other ways to do DPS indirectly its called "buffs" and SMN brought utility like garuda AOE blink skill. Not every DPS class has to be solely DPS, AKA BARD. I guess everyone's happy to be stuck with Garuda till the End of this game's life. Sure lets manage Contagion every minute when I have all my dots on the target..

So give me a summon that could be possible in the lore, without making the SMN too OP.

We discussed it many, MANY times that if we bring another summon to the SMN, it would be too OP or too weak.
Maybe you just play the game just to do some dungeons here and there, but in a raid situation, the SMN is FINE.

Even if we had another summon, we would always use the best one, which won't solve the problem.
Can you at least undertand a simple thing like that ?

[zcrash970]

FF11 SMN had its flaws, but it did one thing right which was diversify the pet abilities. I never said it should heal obviously SCH is there for that, there are other ways to do DPS indirectly its called "buffs" and SMN brought utility like garuda AOE blink skill. Not every DPS class has to be solely DPS, AKA BARD. I guess everyone's happy to be stuck with Garuda till the End of this game's life. Sure lets manage Contagion every minute when I have all my dots on the target..

WHO USES GARUDA ALL THE TIME!?

[jadan2000]

i like the summoner job.... but he does have a point... it would be nice that the next expansion bring us more summon centric so to speak.