With the recent hunt complains..(open world pvp)

[Krylo]

You can check out WoW on a PvP server and see this mechanic in action, and judge for yourself how well it works for world bosses/targets. Hint: it doesn't.

I played on an open pvp server on Rift, and I remember their event bosses when Defiants and Guardians were supposed to work side by side. Was hilarious--random ganking the first couple pulls, until we convinced everyone to behave, and then trying to avoid each other's AoEs while burning adds + the world boss. Was a lot of fun, really, but certainly not for everyone. And WoW's was much worse because of the lack of communication (being able to talk across factions in Rift didn't actually lead to a ton of trolling, oddly, just a lot of 'oh yoooou'/'okay that was fun, could we get serious and do this now?' type interactions, and a few 'my dad faction can beat up your dad faction 'arguments'. We all knew what we were doing when we signed up for open pvp).

That said, adding it to this game would be stupid. There's no 'real' factions, and the three Grand Companies (closest we have) are all working together as an alliance. Our entire story line is about making that alliance stronger. It'd completely destroy immersion for people leveling up to see some Maelstrom officer running around murdering Immortal Flames outside Ul'Dah. Completely counter to the story and setting in every way.

Plus, on the gameplay side, pretty much every open world pvp game has the starting areas being basically safe. Very difficult for the opposing faction to get to, etc. And then the cross faction zones have you starting on opposite sides with the 'actual' contested area starting out very small and easy to avoid where you'll rarely run into alternate faction people, and then growing as you move up to kind of ease people in. There's also little/no reason to go back to low level zones in those games which limits (but doesn't eliminate) max/high level players ganking low level ones. The issue with FFXIV is that, considering that, starting at level 15, we NEED to be able to get from area to area, and have to do a bunch of stuff in level 1-15 areas even at 50/60 you'd have no area safe from the slaughter. There'd be no easing into cross faction zones. It'd just be as soon as you're PvP flagged, oh hey there's a max level player grinding fates for their relic weapon or whatever murdering the shit out of you.

Basically, FFXIV is designed exactly the opposite of a good open world PvP game, and it'd just be a mess mechanically and storyline wise.

[Reynhart]

Except they don't, that "3rd instance" will be a ghost town, guaranteed.

Actually, we don't really know who want some open world PvP.
There are a lot of complains about PvP queue time and the GC restriction in Frontlines, so, it seems some people want to do PvP, just not the way it is now.
If killing someone in the open zone earn PvP points and wolf mark, thos who want to grind PvP rank and get their beast set can do it without waiting for some full parties to gather in frontlines.

Besides, the only restriction will be "one groupe vs another" so you could join forces as any GC, and even can do it with an alliance.
And these instances will still have all the monsters, nodes, NPC, quests, etc...so, if you like the thrill of being ambushed while doing your quests, you'll go there too.

You can even have contract like the Hunt, "kill a tank", "kill a healer", "kill one of each job". And since you choose to go there, no one will complain how they're killed on sight.

[Souljacker]

As hilarious as it would be... no.

The community is toxic enough as it is without adding this layer of trolling.

[Malzian]

No. Just no. I like being able to level in the open zones without people 20-30 levels above me ganking me every time I step foot into the zone. It would happen, people would form squads just to do that (and they wouldn't care about harassment reports), nevermind it only adding to the griefing we see during hunts. So, in short...

[dank1]

Nice to see some people consider it, I know Yoshi P is a pvp fan as well we just have to believe boys QQ

[Kyuuen]

Open world PVP no, no thanks. That would only add to the toxicity of an already toxic hunt oriented problem. The gear concept is fine, but mandatory open world PvP, no.

Challenge based duels; sure, but give me the option in an option menu to opt myself out of ever getting said challenges, otherwise it would be just like WoW. Some clown wanting to make some mundane point and spamming someone with challenges, interrupting someones play.

[Slappah]

Holy crap people.

Why are so many people threatening to unsub or saying it would be the end of xiv for them? O.o like wow...ok..

I get it..you don't want to PvP, that's fine. I respect that, as should anyone else.
But open world PvP would obviously be limited to certain special open world PvP servers. So what does that effect?

Why would you not want them to add content that you wouldn't even notice? It doesn't hurt anyone, only helps those who want it.

I would support this idea, even though I'm 98% sure it will never be added, only because nobody should ever say NO to new content even if you don't like it. Others will and it could help support the game, and if it supports the game I support it.

[Ayuhra]

I think it would be hard to implement elegantly. Most games with PvP dedicated servers or even a battleground with a lot of focus on it have a faction war at the heart of them like Horde vs Alliance or Aldmeri Dominion vs Ebonheart Pact vs Daggerfall Covenant or East vs West.

The only faction wars I could have seen FFXIV set up to make PvP plausible lore-wise (and EVERYTHING in this game has a lore explanation) is the Grand Companies but obviously that's not how the story of Eorzea goes.

There is also the fact that there is a fundamental paradigm shift that occurs when you start introducing more hardcore PvP or PvP at all to a game. The playerbase shifts and balancing classes changes. Look at WoW! After Arena that game never quite recovered.

[SakuraMidori]

All this do is allow camping fc just kill one other and there be no hunts going on just ppl killing each other for a drop :P that just bring out more toxic players

[AskaRay]

Holy crap people.

Why are so many people threatening to unsub or saying it would be the end of xiv for them? O.o like wow...ok..

I get it..you don't want to PvP, that's fine. I respect that, as should anyone else.
But open world PvP would obviously be limited to certain special open world PvP servers. So what does that effect?

Why would you not want them to add content that you wouldn't even notice? It doesn't hurt anyone, only helps those who want it.

I would support this idea, even though I'm 98% sure it will never be added, only because nobody should ever say NO to new content even if you don't like it. Others will and it could help support the game, and if it supports the game I support it.

Rather they'd spend time developing content that most people would enjoy.