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  1. #1
    Player
    Avatar de zcrash970
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Quinton Lightblaze
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Remus Voir le message
    snip.
    I know they won't listen but small glimmer of hope, right?
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    I'm just some guy...

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    Ellie Fredericksen
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Pugiliste Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par zcrash970 Voir le message
    I know they won't listen but small glimmer of hope, right?
    Obviously it was a bug but compared to how dark performs in relation to other jobs. It was a nerf, and i say NERF because the actual definition of nerf i posted above "the bug fix" made it less effective which means nerf. So what if the ability wasn't meant to do that, doesn't change the fact that it was good for the job and was a good source of damage.
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    Avatar de saber_alter
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    Ul'dah
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Chevalier noir Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par Onikimaru Voir le message
    Obviously it was a bug but compared to how dark performs in relation to other jobs. It was a nerf, and i say NERF because the actual definition of nerf i posted above "the bug fix" made it less effective which means nerf. So what if the ability wasn't meant to do that, doesn't change the fact that it was good for the job and was a good source of damage.
    SE doesn't want us doing it that way, so i do not mind. I do mind the fact that it broke two of our skills however.

    no matter. it was a bug that allowed us to save one dark arts worth of MP, in the grand scheme of things it's not so big.
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    aot 2013
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    Echo Sindria
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Chevalier noir Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par saber_alter Voir le message
    SE doesn't want us doing it that way, so i do not mind. I do mind the fact that it broke two of our skills however.

    no matter. it was a bug that allowed us to save one dark arts worth of MP, in the grand scheme of things it's not so big.
    No, that is pretty big. The bug fix was a 50 - 100 DPS loss in general to us.

    To get almost the same effect, we'd have to blow literally 50% of our MP in a single rotation, and clip our GCD unless we have Blood Weapon going.

    It's a hit in more ways than just 1. If you're not noticing, then you either don't have carve & spit yet, or you weren't quite paying attention to the damage you could do through using a Dark Arts on 2 abilities, ontop of the MP you would save in the process.

    We weren't cheesing content with it. Our DPS wasn't through the roof like a Warriors is. If anything, that bug put us on a fair grounds in terms of DPS, and made our MP to Damage conversion so much more tolerable. (TP aside)

    No matter how anyone puts it, bug fix or not, it was an indirect nerf to our overall damage, and MP usage.
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