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    Edyth's Avatar
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    Edyth Angelheart
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    Arcanist Lv 100

    The "nerf this, nerf that, and nerf everything in between" attitude

    So after the DRK nerf, MCH nerf, Triple Triad tournament point NPC payout nerf, tournament participation MGP nerf, platinum card reward nerf, Tradequest leve EXP nerf, Fieldcraft leve EXP nerf, Ixal quest EXP nerf, and all the nerfs I don't even know about, I just don't even have the energy to complain. I'm kind of okay with the levequest EXP nerfs because a valid rationale exists. But piled on to everything else, it just makes things look even more depressing.

    None of these nerfs are fun, and I know more are on the way. I'm expecting Supply and Provisioning mission EXP to be nerfed, and Challenge Log EXP too. Sigh. No, I'm not giving SE ideas. They already thought of it.
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    Drk wasn't nerfed, they hotfixed a broken ability.

    Mac was nerfed accidentally.
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    Skyfang Rauss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappah View Post
    Drk wasn't nerfed, they hotfixed a broken ability.

    Mac was nerfed accidentally.
    and apparently broke two other abilities in the process XD
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Here's the thing. When they are building a class or Job they balance it against the existing classes and Jobs then test their build as they think a player would. Given the developer's country of origin their view of how a player will behave is biased towards a certain style of play. But as non-developer players are won't to do, they are going to try and find every way a class or Job can be played. This is how XI's ninja turned into a tank and red mage/blue mage/dancer became the go-to Jobs for soloing. Unlike XI, though, the developers are keeping a close eye on the game to see how players shake out the classes and Jobs, which even after all this time still surprises them. Like healers that DD, who could have anticipated that? Clearly players found a way to squeeze even more damage out of Dark Knight in an unintended manner, and Square decided to fix it instead of letting it get out of hand.
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    Milmoko Gemoko
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I'd like to say I'm enjoying the challenge the open world and storyline presents so far
    (Im up to Ravana so no spoilers please)
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Wait how did DRK and MCH get nerfed? I know there were bugs that were fixed but they weren't nerfs if it was never intended.

    As for the experience nerfs, its only for lvl 50 characters so they won't cheap level classes to 60 in only a few hours. I agree with SE on these nerfs. Also I doubt they will nerf GC and the Challenge Log since it scales with your level.
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    Last edited by zcrash970; 07-01-2015 at 04:44 PM.
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    Ellie Fredericksen
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    Wait how did DRK and MCH get nerfed? I know there were bugs that were fixed but they weren't nerfs if it was never intended.
    In video gaming, a nerf is a change to a game that makes something less effective or desirable. The word can be used as a verb to describe that change.
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
    snip.
    A nerf happens when something is over powered that needs to be weaken. If it was being exploited, then it would be a bug. Since it the abilities actually didn't do what they were meant to, then they were bugs.

    I imagine the bugs in question are the ones for Rapid Fire and Dark Arts. I know Dark Arts was suppose to fade after one use but people just input commands fast enough to get the effects to be buffed by Dark Arts.
    As for Rapid Fire, I believe the complaint is that it was ueed to instant cast skills while in Gauss Barrel. Rapid Fire is only meant to be used to lower the recast timer by 2.5 seconds if I am not mistaken. This has nothing to do with the cast timer added by Gauss Barrel since cast time and recast time are two seperate things.

    These were bugs, not nerfs. They aren't desired. Unfortunately, the removal of these bugs did weaken the class but I rather have them fix broken skills rather than them just leaving them.
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    Last edited by zcrash970; 07-01-2015 at 05:02 PM.
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    stuff about bugs
    They won't listen people will continue to say the fix for Dark Arts was a nerf and before it was working as intended lol seems people don't know the difference between a bug and a nerf.
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    snip.
    I know they won't listen but small glimmer of hope, right?
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