MCH worth my time?

[SovereignAegis]

I understand that the DPS shouldn't be on par with a Monk but it shouldn't be this low. Yeah we can regen MP/TP but at a cost, at least on the BRD end of things. But at the same time the regen of MCH is a joke. There's no reason why ranged classes should be this weak. Okay so we can move, so can Ninja and they're putting out decent DPS. The only difference is obviously they have to be close to the target. But hey they can dodge. People trip out about mobility way too much. If ranged physical DPS classes struggle to meet DPS checks and are being booted from EX runs constantly then there's an issue.

Oh we are mobile?

Gauss Barrel and WM would like to have a word with you.

[Thunda51]

Oh we are mobile?

Gauss Barrel and WM would like to have a word with you.

I'm not on speaking terms with GB and WM because of their lack of production.

[XgungraveX]

i really hate the people saying that we shouldn't be able to do decent damage because were a dps/support job is getting old, we should be able to pull are weight in dmg just like any job because at the end of the day its the raid boss what were up against.

[Ryaz]

i really hate the people saying that we shouldn't be able to do decent damage because were a dps/support job is getting old, we should be able to pull are weight in dmg just like any job because at the end of the day its the raid boss what were up against.

Agreed. It's especially annoying when you call them out on their own support abilities and they fire back with some straw man argument. If ranged gets competitive DPS, I really don't see BRDs or MCHs being the only thing brought to raids. DRG will still have their awesome 15% crit buff. NIN will still being a good, single target TP regen that doesn't lower their DPS by 15% as well as enmity control and damage increasing buffs for the party. People will want a mix.

[Aerya]

I think it's really easy to explain : all DPS classes, and even tanks, got new skills with Heavensward to increase their DPS. Except Bards (their new skills are almost a decrease in DPS), still stuck to a lvl 50 DPS. MCH seem even worse.

OK to have a little less power, like in 2.5. Not OK to be the only ones stuck at lvl 50 while the others have fun with their great new lvl 60 skills. Personally, I didn't play my BRD in Heavensward yet (not worth it) and gave up on the MCH. I'll stick to PLD and DRK (we don't have enough DRK after all...) for now. There is a lot to do, no time to waste with trash classes.

[Alkel]

I was BRD main job back in ARR, leveled MCH to 60 and i must say, in his curent state, this job is useless and its the reason we see MCH being kicker from PUG groups.

DPS is far too low and the "support" skills are not worth it if we look what the BRD can do (hello requiem!).

For now, i will just stick with the MCH until i got another job ready for end game and will probably never use this gimpy job again. Problem is, BRD also seems gimp now ><

So i might as well go back on BLM since its what SE seems to want! Ranged physical DPS are not supposed to have cast time, this is ridiculous!

[Ryaz]

We got skill to increase our dps-- gauss round and ricochet are really good skills. The problem is that Gauss Barrel, which was also supposed to be a dps increase, ended up hurting us instead. You fix GB to do what it was supposed to do and we'd be good.

[AnimazArk]

don't lisen to elitist easytoplay classes, SE designed the job MCH it got's pro and cons like every job, it will get a buff (hopefully) and people need to get better as players with their own jobs and working with others players with different jobs as well. Choose the class you want, doesn't matter if you are playing well or not you will face rude players and bad raids runs sometimes anyway.

[Adventica6]

There is a huge stigma against mch, and with any game, stigmas don't go away even with changes, for a long, long time. The answer you are looking for is no.

[Snugglebutt]

I was looking forward to playing MCH more than anything else with the expansion but I have put on hold any desire to start one until SE fixes them. My main is a bard which already needs fixing in terms of WM/DPS due to a combination of low WD, some poor skill design and potency issues (thankfully SE have acknowledged there is a problem but I await their attempts to fix it) so the idea of starting the other poorly balanced class aka machinist does not fill me with glee at the moment. The basic principles behind the machinist class I am fine with but when the difficulty does not match the reward in terms of class competence at a design level as opposed to player competence then there is a major problem, one that I will wait till SE fixes before starting one myself.