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    Player
    Crimsonumbra's Avatar
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    Crimson Umbra
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 30

    MCH worth my time?

    So I am new to the game, just started a week or so ago. I have been working to hit 50 to unlock the MCH. But from what I have seen and read it is a total waste of time. Should I just stick with the BRD at this point or are they not very good either? I just want a fun DPS class, that isn't total crap. I want to be wanted and needed for raids.

    So should I still keep trying for the MCH or stick to my BRD? Or should I try something entirely different?

    Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    brd bad mch after both in a bad spot, mch is borderline worthless after the hotfix today too. Bard has been recognized and we only hope mch is too.
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    Krissey Cakes
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Look at all the MCH thread titles. It is self evident.
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    Zafeira Zhalwann
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    If you have incredible faith in SE will do something at some point to fix MCH then go for it.

    For now, I'd say get Bard to 60, no reason to set yourself back a few levels by switching now.
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    Crimson Umbra
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    Lancer Lv 30
    If neither BRD or MCH are good, what is a good fun dps class to play? I think the ninja and the dragoon look cool, are they good?
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    Ria Arrow
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 60
    Don't listen to anyone unless you're looking at the rotation guides. Honestly, work out your own opinion before deciding to switch.

    I found that my experience with healing helped me out greatly to get used to turret stances. I still deal solid damage, inferior to melees/mage-DPS, but that's always been like that. Your opinion in choosing a main > any other's opinion. Full stop.

    Have fun in Heavensward!
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    Anevyae Telbrenique
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Viar View Post
    Don't listen to anyone unless you're looking at the rotation guides. Honestly, work out your own opinion before deciding to switch.

    I found that my experience with healing helped me out greatly to get used to turret stances. I still deal solid damage, inferior to melees/mage-DPS, but that's always been like that. Your opinion in choosing a main > any other's opinion. Full stop.

    Have fun in Heavensward!
    The problem comes when his opinion gets him kicked from parties because "Machinist DPS sucks".
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    Crimson Umbra
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemiel View Post
    The problem comes when his opinion gets him kicked from parties because "Machinist DPS sucks".
    This is my main concern. Which is why I am wondering what dps classes are good and always wanted in groups/raids.
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    Melee DPS and Mage DPS are both in good positions right now, physical ranged DPS aka bard and machinist are currently not in a very good position due to SE design choices and suffering because of it in group content.

    We can only hope SE fixes the issues with them but doubt will resolve it any time soon. You will be fine for most content that have no major DPS checks at 60 on bard or machinist but might suffer insults and getting kicked of blocked from hard content at 60 sometimes which requires high DPS checks like EX mode trials. You may get lucky however and only meet friendly nice people willing to accommodate your lower DPS but just be prepared for the potential of coming into contact with nasty ones and bad experiences until they are fixed when taking part for the most part in EX trials (maybe alexander too when comes out).

    The major problem content is EX mode trials in HW, all dungeons and non EX mode content in HW you should be fine on either though. Not sure what will happen with alexander raid but I am expecting to be as bad for bards and machinists as the current EX trials are in HW in terms of belittling of your class by others and kicking from groups just because of the class you play. This last part is an assumption though about the difficulty of alexander and depending on the difficulty and DPS output required reflected in that possible outcome.

    I play as a bard main and in almost all content so far in HW you wont have any major problems except in EX modes where you may be picked on, insulted or kicked just because of your class. Though even in the non EX group content be prepared to have lower overall DPS than most other classes quite often, exceptions possible when take into account other players may not be as good at their jobs but if they are good you will often be lower on the DPS chain as bard or machinist even if your good too.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 07-01-2015 at 05:12 AM.

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    Player IfritReborn's Avatar
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    Character
    Kevvy Alexandros
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 60
    No. It's not
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