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  1. #301
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    Telepwnsauce's Avatar
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    Asclepius Windwalker
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    Coeurl
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    I know people saying that the video posted was cherry picked and lucky crits etc. However he did pull 930 or 990 i forget in with GB up 100%. So not all hope is lost, yes i agree movement but thats same as BLMs. We have ability to store up procs to to use them for movement.

    honestly most bosses have a pattern, so we need to get down the pattern and then work around that (not easy, not saying we will be better then any other class but should be doable). I remember when I was healing, i'd memorize fights and then heal cast timers based on that. (different i know however similar)
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  2. #302
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    Excel Kobayashi
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Anyone have any parses to compare the rotations for "Always on Gauss Barrel" vs Gauss Barrel only on during the Wildfire boost rotation?

    R.I.P. Rapid Fire + Gauss Barrel - To me you were a feature, not a bug.
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    Glory to Mankind

  3. #303
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telepwnsauce View Post
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    The 990 was right after wildfire ended, which inflates the numbers a bit. He was also using blanks off cooldown, it's something to consider if you're full time GBing. Then there's potting and food buff.

    As for the pattern thing, the same can be said for any other class. The difference is the payoff for working your ass off to get the optimal damage rotation.

    Quote Originally Posted by arctic View Post
    Anyone have any parses to compare the rotations for "Always on Gauss Barrel" vs Gauss Barrel only on during the Wildfire boost rotation?

    R.I.P. Rapid Fire + Gauss Barrel - To me you were a feature, not a bug.
    I did around 830-850 on average with gauss bursting and party buff. Full time gauss was around 800-810 on average.

    The problem with full time GB is that you need to use round and ricochet off cooldown to barely break even for the auto attack loss...but at 20/60 seconds respectively, it doesn't align with wildfire. If you were just using it off burst, you'd only be using gauss/rico every 90 seconds with wildfire, but you also have auto attacks to make up inbetween.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 07-01-2015 at 02:44 AM.

  4. #304
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    Excel Kobayashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    I did around 830-850 on average with gauss bursting and party buff. Full time gauss was around 800-810 on average.
    Thanks! If you don't mind me asking what rotation are you following for your Gauss Bursting? I'm in search of a new one, I might be able to move Gauss to the start of my current one, but I'm always looking for something a little better.
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    Elizabeth's Avatar
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    Minerva Cho
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    I did around 830-850 on average with gauss bursting and party buff. Full time gauss was around 800-810 on average.
    Turret included?
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  6. #306
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    Quote Originally Posted by arctic View Post
    Thanks! If you don't mind me asking what rotation are you following for your Gauss Bursting? I'm in search of a new one, I might be able to move Gauss to the start of my current one, but I'm always looking for something a little better.
    There's really nothing else for yo uto do after you burned everything in gauss burst. It's just keeping reload, blank, graze and quick reload off cooldown and using it whenever they come up. I also like to try to use my quick reloads for split shot rather than slug shot, and not waste ammo on clean shots unless its with reassemble.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    Turret included?
    Turret is included. It's merged with my numbers.
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Alchemist Lv 55
    Out of a few tries, I was capable of peaking at 960 in 3.5 mins(Gauss on at beginning then off after wildfire) but I'd say I average around 900+ with changes so we're slightly under Bard as it stands.
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  8. #308
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    Peach Parfait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    Out of a few tries, I was capable of peaking at 960 in 3.5 mins(Gauss on at beginning then off after wildfire) but I'd say I average around 900+ with changes so we're slightly under Bard as it stands.
    Do you only use Gauss for the opening, or do you put it back on when Hawk Eye/Wildifire/B4B are back up?
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  9. #309
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Do you only use Gauss for the opening, or do you put it back on when Hawk Eye/Wildifire/B4B are back up?
    Only for the opening. Putting it back on is a loss and I've tried going full GB but for the most part it seems like a loss unless you have good crit/proc RNG.
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Also with the changes seeing as how we are going to be going to gauss barrel only soon might as well start having a look at the rotation. The opener from the OP remain almost the same but with a few minor tweaks. This is just how it works out in my head, no math was done for this, would anyone mind helping me tweak it up a bit

    60 sec Pre-Pull
    -Reload
    30 sec Pre-Pull
    -Quick Reload
    4 sec Pre-Pull
    -Rook Autoturret (if more Physical DPS than Magical DPS, if otherwise, Bishop Autoturret)
    2 sec Pre-Pull
    (no quelling here cause feint)*
    1 sec Pre-Pull
    -quick reload*
    -Rapid fire*
    -Raging Strikes
    Pull

    -Dexterity Potion
    -Hawk's Eye
    Hot Shot
    -Blood for Blood
    -Hypercharge
    Lead Shot
    -Wildfire
    Split Shot
    -Ricochet
    -Gauss Round
    Slug Shot
    -Blank
    -Reassemble
    Clean Shot
    -Head Graze
    -Reload*
    Split Shot

    * denotes what changed. Mainly moved rapid fire to the prepull to make hot shot, lead shot and the first slug shot instant cast as to not have to deal with cast time for the beginning of the pull. This also allows you to double pop OGCDs without dipping to much into your GCD.
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    Last edited by Ephier; 07-01-2015 at 04:22 AM. Reason: Fixed errors

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