A DPS Simulator 2 - SimFF

[Dervy]

Oh., i forgot to mention that my damage model minuses 1 at the end of the total calculation... So:

198 / 1.005 = 197.0149253731343
197.0149253731343 * 0.3015 = 59.4 - 1 = 58.4

179.5 / 1.005 = 178.6069651741294
178.6069651741294 * 0.3015 = 53.85 - 1 = 52.85

58.4/52.85 = 1.105014191106906

Then if we were to reverse it:

58.4 + 1 / 0.3015 = 197.0149253731343 * 1.005 = 198
52.85 + 1 / 0.3015 = 178.6069651741294 * 1.005 = 179.5

It's fairly accurate I guess. It doesn't fit all of my data points however... But it kind of makes a lot of it more simple to explain.

[Viridiana]

So, I'm stepping through crit values now, and it looks like it takes about 521 rating before you get back to a x1.5 multiplier for damage.

Oh., i forgot to mention that my damage model minuses 1 at the end of the total calculation

But if you're going to minus something at the end anyway, wouldn't it be a simpler assumption that the potency numbers are a straight multiplier and that there's a non-1 subtraction at the end? >_>

[Dervy]

I tried solving potency with my Dragoon data points (the old 2.X ones) and the model for my sample, but it gives me a larger variation of errors when I solve it this way without minusing 1 at the end of the potency calculation.

I hate this game sometimes. lmao

[pandabearcat]

Doesn't ZAM have a way to extract data from gamefiles? simcraft does something similar and if I can get my hands on that datamining it would make this so much easier.

If I can grab spell data straight from the game I wouldn't have to write and rewrite all this code for abilities.

[Dervy]

Yeah they should. Premium Virtue (Owner of XIVDB), owner of Garlandtools and two others from the Bluegartr community, one of which shares a similar name to a Community Rep, all can extract data from the game.

[Kenji1134]

So could we simply ask them to dig into the game code and get out the exact damage/healing/potency... and every other equation from the game?

[Hustensaft]

http://puu.sh/iIedd/53b1024c3e.png

What's the 2nd table supposed to show? How is a base of 412 SS with a 2.5 GCD even possible?

[Dervy]

No, no, you're right. I forgot to change it back. I was testing something else out before I took the printscreen, my bad. http://puu.sh/iIWrj/a4c263c46c.png Highlighted it in red to show that this was the baseline I'm measuring it from (couldn't reach 0 SS with that WD/DET), but it's +58 from the base of 384.

Also, it's supposed to highlight the difference in GCD from the baseline I measured, versus the impact DoTs made on damage.

[Viridiana]

So, I decided to step through some data points for Mutilate working towards SS scaling (even though I didn't get to SS scaling today, but oh well). I'll edit this post later with SS values, but for now I figured I'd give the points I do have. Everything is at 70 WD and 428 Skill Speed, because the only weapon I had on me with no SS is my Zenith, and that would be pointless. >_>

Varied Crit, 267 Determination:

Stats             Non      Crit
370 AP, 354 Crit: 53-58,   76-84
398 AP, 377 Crit: 57-64,   82-91
434 AP, 409 Crit: 62-69,   90-100
452 AP, 422 Crit: 65-72,   95-105
496 AP, 457 Crit: 72-79,   106-116 (not full spread?)
548 AP, 505 Crit: 79-88,   117-130
574 AP, 521 Crit: 82-91,   123-135
622 AP, 551 Crit: 91-100,  136-149 (not full spread?)
685 AP, 586 Crit: 99-110,  148-165
708 AP, 601 Crit: 104-115, 156-173 (Auto Attack 342-378, 516-568; Death Blossom 343-380, 518-572)

Varied Determination, ignored Crit, tried to match AP from before, still 428 SS 70 WD. Also ignored critical damage:

Stats            Mutil    AA       DB
398 AP, 339 Det: 57-64,   193-212, 194-214 
434 AP, 343 Det: 63-70,   210-232, 212-235
452 AP, 360 Det: 66-73,   220-243, 222-244 (not full spread? pattern says 245 max)
496 AP, 385 Det: 74-81,   242-267, 244-270
548 AP, 401 Det: 80-89,   268-296, 272-300 (weird that there's a 4-point range here compared to 2-points elsewhere)
574 AP, 426 Det: 85-94,   283-313, 285-315
622 AP, 442 Det: 92-101,  307-339, 309-342
685 AP, 480 Det: 104-115, 340-375, 343-380
708 AP, 473 Det: 108-119, 351-388, 354-391
797 AP, 516 Det: 121-134, 398-439, 400-442

Varied Skill Speed with constant 267 Det. Very bottom set is 469 Det.

Stats            Mutil    Auto     DB
398 AP, 500 Sks: 58-65,   190-211, 193-213
434 AP, 522 Sks: 63-70,   207-230, 211-234
452 AP, 512 Sks: 66-73,   217-240, 219-242
496 AP, 546 Sks: 74-81,   238-264, 241-266
548 AP, 569 Sks: 81-90,   264-291, 266-294
574 AP, 580 Sks: 85-94,   276-306, 278-308
622 AP, 616 Sks: 94-103,  298-331, 301-333
685 AP, 574 Sks: 102-113, 331-366, 332-367
775 AP, 605 Sks: 115-128, 374-414, 378-417
               Full Gearset
862 AP, 623 Sks: 133-148, 428-472, 432-476 (469 Det)

[Waliel]

Initial testing from ACT dev shows that base crit multiplier can be as low as 1.46, and low spellspeed values reducing dot tick damage to below 2.X levels. I don't know how accurate that is, but wanted to throw it out here.