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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhalanxField View Post
    Maybe.... dummy has some ice resist? Do we know if their def and mdef is the same?
    As far as we know, mobs don't have any sort of defense or resists. That's why ladybugs and Savage mobs take the same damage from the same attacks, and why BLM isn't useless against Ifrit or Shiva. But, this situation gets more and more fun!

    Katon: 782-865
    Aeolian: 784-867 (uncombo'd, rear attack)
    Both 180 potency.

    Doton: 135-150
    Mutilate: 135-150
    Both 30 potency.

    Fuma: 1046-1157
    Aeolian: 1046-1157 (combo'd, flank attack)
    Both 240 potency.

    So Fuma is accurately 240 potency. Doton is probably accurately 30 potency (or the error is too small to observe). Hyoton and Katon are demonstrably not their listed potencies, and Raiton is probably not though has no matching-potency WS or ability to test against. Most interestingly, Doton is unaffected by Foe Requiem, and I didn't see any effect from any of the resistance-down debuffs.
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    I'd guess Doton is just treated the same as Flaming Arrow.
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    Seems to be the case. What about Suiton vs Katon vs Aeolian? So far it's still just been elemental skills that are out of line, but that could just be coincidental, and we'd have to do cross-job comparisons to test outside of Ninja, which is... shitty.
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  4. #334
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhalanxField View Post
    Seems to be the case. What about Suiton vs Katon vs Aeolian? So far it's still just been elemental skills that are out of line, but that could just be coincidental, and we'd have to do cross-job comparisons to test outside of Ninja, which is... shitty.
    I haven't specifically tested Suiton. I should probably do that. And, yeah, cross-class comparisons would be really crappy to try to do.

    Edit: Tested Suiton. Minimum damage was 782. Max I saw was 864, but I didn't continue testing after seeing the 782.
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    Last edited by Viridiana; 11-25-2015 at 04:23 AM.

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