Sooooo this warrior bs...

[StouterTaru]

And warriors can just spam Fell Cleave about every 7 GCD...

[Reynhart]

And warriors can just spam Fell Cleave about every 7 GCD...

Actually, it's 9 GCD since you need 8 GCD to build 5 stacks, unless you "waste" a mitigation skill.
And without berserk, WAR potency is overall lower than DRK

In fact, taking only the window you need to use Fell Cleave from scratch and putting aside any skill with a cooldown longer than that window, PLD is the one with the highest base potency, even though he still lacks some damage buff.

[StouterTaru]

Actually, it's 9 GCD since you need 8 GCD to build 5 stacks, unless you "waste" a mitigation skill.

It's 8.5 if you ignore Infuriate and Berserk/Mitigation Abandon, and I said spam it, not use it once. Comes out closer to 7 in reality.

First rotation takes 3 Heavy Swing + 5 combos + cleave, 2nd rotation 2 Heavy Swing + 5 combos + cleave.

[Riastrad]

See... This is why rumors are bad ideas. The 10-15k crits you talk about is one specific scenario, during ravanas vulnerability phase a war fully buffed with party buffs and str potions and food hit ravana at precisely the right time for 2 back to back Hi crits with fell cleave. Yet it gets misconstrued that WARs are going around hitting 15k on everything. I have an i172 WAR ATM and even with full buffs I'm critting around 4k-5k on reg mobs with a 180 axe bought from law.... Ppl need to get stories correct.

SE designed WAR like this intentionally, because WARs self heals are to WAR what PLD shields are to pld. The Hi dmg war does in burst is to make its play style and tanking effective. Idk why that's so hard for you ppl to comprehend. And its not just self heals, WAR ALSO has to keep hate against buffd dps, its dmg output is a big part of how it maintains threat.

So crying about WAR dps is effectively saying you want WARs style to be changed, which its just my opinion, but I don't see that happening considering how they've treated smn and schs class dependency and smn total design being kept but just tweaked minorly despite a large outcry from the playerbase to overhaul it completely.

Haven't you heard? Warriors also account for the 90k problems and world hunger.

Fell Cleave eats up people's bandwidth to power itself up and burns calories like crazy!

[Illya]

Haven't you heard? Warriors also account for the 90k problems and world hunger.

Fell Cleave eats up people's bandwidth to power itself up and burns calories like crazy!

I would uh like it to burn calories like crazy so I can maintain my slim figure

I'm a Warrior and I think FC is fine. We could use a buff because we're weak.

If anything this is the truth. PLD is still a better DPS OT than WAR is after all this time, even though PLD is the easiest MT to play. How this even fathomably fair to WAR, I have no idea.

Both PLD and DRK have vastly superior "OH S***" buttons, Holmgang was a mistake and has always been nothing but trash. Meanwhile PLD have always had Hallowed Ground and now DRK shows up with Living Dead which is even better as long as your healer knows where his Benediction button is.

[FrejyaAthenes]

Both PLD and DRK have vastly superior "OH S***" buttons, Holmgang was a mistake and has always been nothing but trash. Meanwhile PLD have always had Hallowed Ground and now DRK shows up with Living Dead which is even better as long as your healer knows where his Benediction button is.

Did they fix that bug? Otherwise, I'm pretty sure Benediction doesn't work.

[Rbstr]

Did they fix that bug? Otherwise, I'm pretty sure Benediction doesn't work.

It's not a bug. People don't understand how it works. The DRK needs receive heals that total up to his full HP. NOT be healed to his maximum HP. This way the DRK can keep getting hit and never reach fully-healed status but still lose the death-debuff.
That's why Bene alone doesn't work. It's always going to be at least one HP short.

[Reynhart]

It's 8.5 if you ignore Infuriate and Berserk/Mitigation Abandon, and I said spam it, not use it once. Comes out closer to 7 in reality.

Still, in those 7-8 GCD, DRK can accumulate more potency. As we said, WAR has pretty huge burst phase for those 15s of Berserk+Infuriate, but for the 45 seconds remaining, their output is pretty much behind the other tanks.

And if we make proper calculation, the average number of the three will surely be pretty close.
It's exatcly how MNK and DRG were before 3.0. DRG can burst everything to do big numbers, but in the long run, the steady DPS of MNK make them almost equal. (Haven't tested DPS post 50, though)

But, don't worry, all WARs out there, you don't need to convince everyone that you're the best tank ever. We all love the buffs and debuffs you bring to the raid and the short burst of damage you can do push these DPS check a little faster.

[StouterTaru]

Still, in those 7-8 GCD, DRK can accumulate more potency. As we said, WAR has pretty huge burst phase for those 15s of Berserk+Infuriate, but for the 45 seconds remaining, their output is pretty much behind the other tanks.

That was my original point, one hard hit every 7 GCD isn't OP vs the other tanks.