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    Cilia's Avatar
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    He's a damned coward. He holds hatred like nidhogg but doesn't want to betray the pact he made with Shiva, except he does he just does it in a indirect manner by giving him his eye. He knew full well what that would mean, he knew exactly what that would cause. He's as guilty as Nidhogg and an absolute jerk.
    I think that's what pisses me off the most about Hraesvelgr; he has just as much blood on his hands, he's indirectly responsible for everything Nidhogg does after giving him his eye, and he holds just as much hate as Nidhogg... he just doesn't act on it because of Shiva's influence, and absolves himself of responsibility by saying "time is different for dragons" and "your ancestors killed my sister and drove my brother insane, so shut up!"

    Estinien says that even though Hraesvelgr never struck a blow, he got his vengeance just the same as Nidhogg, and he's entirely right. Nidhogg was his revenge. Hraesvelgr may have saved Nidhogg out of guilt and pity, but he knew exactly what that would mean in the long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Estinien says that even though Hraesvelgr never struck a blow, he got his vengeance just the same as Nidhogg, and he's entirely right. Nidhogg was his revenge. Hraesvelgr may have saved Nidhogg out of guilt and pity, but he knew exactly what that would mean in the long term.
    Yea, I agree with that.
    That much revenge is reasonable.
    It was an eye for an eye, literally. Which is fits the morality I'd expect of the dragons.

    I don't think he gets upset simply because he's being defensive.
    I think he's saying he did as much as he had to, after getting his sister killing.
    Thinking he shouldn't have left his brother to die, or to expect some payback was insulting.

    Though the current Ishgard is made of innocent people, they did bring it on themselves.
    Maybe if the masses knew the truth and the Holy See didn't propogate dragon-hate propaganda, then there would've been reason to defend the humans.
    Ishgard never admitted it's sin. As the PC, it's unfair to the innocent, but if you think as Hraevalgr you wouldn't think they really deserve standing up for if they stayed in their ignorance.

    Though I guess it's inevitable people would think differently about these event anyway.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 06-30-2015 at 10:45 AM.