Is Ravana EX dps check not as strict as Bismarck? Because one time in pf we have 2 bard in pt and we were doing no where enough damage. Another common issue even when there is only 1 bard in pt if it fail dsp check. They will always kick the lowest dps in pt and in this case, it will always be Bard or Mech. Unless the pt bring 2 caster into the fight foe won;t have as much of an impact with the dps. What is your bard tactic for bismarck ex? For the moment, I only use WM+ Barrage + Ea when breaking the caprase on Bismarck and on the two add when EA + barrage line up, other than that I turn off WM. There are sizeable amount of dodge needed in Bismarck so wm is not really the best choice. I beat final coil before the echo come in so I have a decent 2.5 bard rotation.