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  1. #11
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    Lewtskie's Avatar
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    a 30 second debuff ward could be a great stress relief to your healers.

    There is literally no way to know how objectively useful the ability is because it was likely given to us for content we don't yet have access to.
    There's having situational tools like our current songs and then there's just throwing us an ability for the sole purpose of very specific mechanics later down the road. So it's easy to say how useful it's gonna be: 90% a useless waste of space, and in that 10% moment a blessing. So... still pretty much useless. It's bad when the devs start slapping certain fight mechanics on your class and call it a new ability.
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  2. #12
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    Moon Kibbles
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    Tonberry
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Does it work on special types of debuffs like Death Sentence?
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  3. #13
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    HeavensSword's Avatar
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    Marik Landzaat
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aphel View Post
    Does it work on special types of debuffs like Death Sentence?
    I'm no BRD, but I assume anything that is Esunable.
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  4. #14
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    SasakiNori's Avatar
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    Lanaya Valerian
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by HeavensSword View Post
    I'm no BRD, but I assume anything that is Esunable.
    Not even. It doesnt work on Pacification (warrior's berserk) for example.
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  5. #15
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    Sana Cetonis
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    Adamantoise
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    Bard Lv 100
    I've used it pre-pull in Ravana EX, as it allows you to basically ignore his first shield and execute your WM opener unhindered save for maybe a cast interrupt. You can also toss it up during downtime as a why-not.

    Other than that, I've come up empty. I keep trying to get the Fractal last boss lose a bomb to it, just for laughs, but he keeps putting it on non-Paean'd targets. Jerk.
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  6. #16
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    Taban Highwind
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cetonis View Post
    I've used it pre-pull in Ravana EX, as it allows you to basically ignore his first shield and execute your WM opener unhindered save for maybe a cast interrupt. You can also toss it up during downtime as a why-not.

    Other than that, I've come up empty. I keep trying to get the Fractal last boss lose a bomb to it, just for laughs, but he keeps putting it on non-Paean'd targets. Jerk.
    Doesn't his shield also reduce damage done from that side to 0? I mean preventing slow would be nice, but you still don't want to be hitting him from the wrong side.
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    Am I a butterfly dreaming I'm a man... Or a bowling ball dreaming I'm a plate of sashimi?

  7. #17
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    Edellis's Avatar
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    There's having situational tools like our current songs and then there's just throwing us an ability for the sole purpose of very specific mechanics later down the road. So it's easy to say how useful it's gonna be: 90% a useless waste of space, and in that 10% moment a blessing. So... still pretty much useless. It's bad when the devs start slapping certain fight mechanics on your class and call it a new ability.
    Any Bard who made it to Lv50 in the first place should be used to this....the only song that was even remotely useful before EX primals was Foe Requiem.

    Maybe the HM primals, if people kept dying or something, IDK.
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  8. #18
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FateAudax View Post
    No self-respecting bard will ever use it. I play the class for the mobility and not to be some pseudo caster wannabe.
    Huh, when did they ninjachange Minuet to root you in place while its on? Last i checked, i could freely run around with it on.

    The instant nature of BRDs skills was always a sore point with me, as i love RL Archery. (inb4 RL doesn't apply here)
    Yes its different, but it doesn't prevent you from turning it off when you need to move and shoot at the same time, which is nearly never. And hell, even on my MCH, stutter-stepping lets me dps on the move anyways.
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  9. #19
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    Any Bard who made it to Lv50 in the first place should be used to this....the only song that was even remotely useful before EX primals was Foe Requiem.

    Maybe the HM primals, if people kept dying or something, IDK.
    That's not entirely true. I mean, BCoB was out before EX Primals, and you can't say that Ballad/Paeon weren't useful there.
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  10. #20
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    Mayong Mistmoore
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by FateAudax View Post
    However, I agree with you on the WM. No self-respecting bard will ever use it.
    AoE burning. Just saying.

    And my experience with my various experimentations with Warden's is, it's very inconsistent. It can even block a status effect from one mob, and be incapable of blocking the same effect from something else. Good example, it can block Vulnerability Up from regular mobs, like, those Naboorie things in Hinterlands, but not block the exact same effect from, like, the first boss in Fractal. So, you'll never be able to count on it like "I know Warden's has blocked xeffect before, so I can use it to block xeffect now!"
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    Content too hard? Too much rng? Too much effort for the item you want?

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