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    Edellis's Avatar
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Quote Originally Posted by xenok View Post
    Sorry, no opinion since it requires WM (hence never used it before), and no self-respecting bard uses WM.
    Haha, yeah no it doesn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by xenok View Post
    Well, actually that's not true. There is one acceptable use of WM, which is to open with WM -> click all the buffs -> EA -> "ooohhh big numbers" -> click off WM -> back to the 2.X days of being a bard.
    So, according to you, we should just remove WM from the game, so we can go back to the self-respecting ways of clicking all our buffs and doing "oooooh okay" numbers, while running in circles?



    As for everyone calling a preemptive esuna useless, i'll assume you've never played any raid content before echo/nerfs came to nullify the importance of its mechanics. Assuming you know what's coming, a 30 second debuff ward could be a great stress relief to your healers.

    There is literally no way to know how objectively useful the ability is because it was likely given to us for content we don't yet have access to.
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    a 30 second debuff ward could be a great stress relief to your healers.

    There is literally no way to know how objectively useful the ability is because it was likely given to us for content we don't yet have access to.
    There's having situational tools like our current songs and then there's just throwing us an ability for the sole purpose of very specific mechanics later down the road. So it's easy to say how useful it's gonna be: 90% a useless waste of space, and in that 10% moment a blessing. So... still pretty much useless. It's bad when the devs start slapping certain fight mechanics on your class and call it a new ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    There's having situational tools like our current songs and then there's just throwing us an ability for the sole purpose of very specific mechanics later down the road. So it's easy to say how useful it's gonna be: 90% a useless waste of space, and in that 10% moment a blessing. So... still pretty much useless. It's bad when the devs start slapping certain fight mechanics on your class and call it a new ability.
    Any Bard who made it to Lv50 in the first place should be used to this....the only song that was even remotely useful before EX primals was Foe Requiem.

    Maybe the HM primals, if people kept dying or something, IDK.
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    Any Bard who made it to Lv50 in the first place should be used to this....the only song that was even remotely useful before EX primals was Foe Requiem.

    Maybe the HM primals, if people kept dying or something, IDK.
    That's not entirely true. I mean, BCoB was out before EX Primals, and you can't say that Ballad/Paeon weren't useful there.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xenok View Post
    Sorry, no opinion since it requires WM (hence never used it before), and no self-respecting bard uses WM.
    More like "no bard that wants to be blocked from endgame content parties uses WM." In every EX party and the few runs of Savage mode I've seen, if the BRD isn't using WM, they're being kicked and replaced immediately, it gimps your DPS too much not to use it (and makes certain DPS checks so much harder).

    Quote Originally Posted by FateAudax View Post
    Warden's Paean doesn't require you to be in WM mode. However, I agree with you on the WM. No self-respecting bard will ever use it. I play the class for the mobility and not to be some pseudo caster wannabe.
    You're right, you have no mobility with WM on. /sarcasm
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    Fara Venator
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    This video made me happy, its always fun to see people get blown the fuck out
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