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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Since going into the life stream Y'Shtola is more like an elemental now than man. Kan-E-Senna said the main difference between elementals and man is that man percievse the world by their senses and elementals percieve the world through aether. I'm guessing that Y'Shtola got transformed into an elemental as a result of using a forbidden spell and going into the life stream.
    I made this connection as well and wonder what significance it might have going forward. It's also possible that the spell was not the cause of her change but rather the elementals either did it deliberately as a 'cost' for them retrieving her or they accidentally put her back together wrong. Hopefully we'll find out eventually as the amount of attention the change has gotten in the script suggests it may have a narrative purpose beyond just being a cost for the use of dangerous magic.

    I'm surprised more people haven't questioned the fact Thancred didn't return with her though. Was he not caught up in the same spell? Did he perhaps end up where Y'shtola originally intended to teleport to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    I'm surprised more people haven't questioned the fact Thancred didn't return with her though. Was he not caught up in the same spell? Did he perhaps end up where Y'shtola originally intended to teleport to?
    I was surprised that no one else mentioned him, as well. I guess we can assume that she succesfully transported him to... somehwere? She herself got lost in the Lifestream, so I wouldn't be surprised in Thancred ended up somewhere besides the intended place (if she even meant to go somewhere outside of "out from this pile of rubble").
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    I'm surprised more people haven't questioned the fact Thancred didn't return with her though. Was he not caught up in the same spell? Did he perhaps end up where Y'shtola originally intended to teleport to?
    Y'shtola mentioned that she cast the spell with the intention of saving Thancred, but I don't recall her ever stating if she actually succeeded at that. Would have to go back and check but I thought she said something went wrong causing her to transport herself instead of Thancred. Curious what happened to Minphilia given that she went back to check on them...

    I suspect all Scions will come back altered in some way and receive a new outfit from Tataru.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurelinKementari View Post
    Y'shtola mentioned that she cast the spell with the intention of saving Thancred, but I don't recall her ever stating if she actually succeeded at that. Would have to go back and check but I thought she said something went wrong causing her to transport herself instead of Thancred. Curious what happened to Minphilia given that she went back to check on them...
    Well it's not blatantly said what happened to Thancred, but remember they did confirm that his body was not within the rubble. We can deduce that Y'shtola's spell did indeed work to some extent. Whether or not Thancred made it to the teleport point or got lost in the aether too is what's unknown.

    Also we don't know what Minphilia was going to do. Before she left she got a message from Hydaelyn. We can assume she's safe, I highly doubt Hydaelyn would send her to her death for little reason. What we do know is that Hydaelyn's plans for her were different than yours (the player character), and going your separate ways at that junction was necessary for you both to complete your tasks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Well it's not blatantly said what happened to Thancred, but remember they did confirm that his body was not within the rubble. We can deduce that Y'shtola's spell did indeed work to some extent. Whether or not Thancred made it to the teleport point or got lost in the aether too is what's unknown.

    Also we don't know what Minphilia was going to do. Before she left she got a message from Hydaelyn. We can assume she's safe, I highly doubt Hydaelyn would send her to her death for little reason. What we do know is that Hydaelyn's plans for her were different than yours (the player character), and going your separate ways at that junction was necessary for you both to complete your tasks.

    I'm calling it now with Thancred, he's in garlemarld serving the empire with amnesia and we'll fight him in a later patch and hit him with a frying pan in the head to restore his memory.
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