Alexander too soon?

[Eidolon]

Fun fact: The forerunners in my FC downed it in IL160 or less - some of their pieces are even those IL142/146 from The Vault/The Library lol. Probably it's just the level of skill difference.

Fun fact: That was with -all- of them being at the top of their game. Again, ONE PERSON can not push the DPS needed to clear a check. There are a TON of players right now that are STILL learning their roles. Don't compare the hardcore blitzers to those who are casually taking their time.

Seriously, your comparison is like saying that you should be ashamed if you have an i130 DRG in a T13 party pre-patch and not clearing just because everyone else was i123. @_@ Stop being rediculous.

[Ooshima]

Fun fact: That was with -all- of them being at the top of their game. Again, ONE PERSON can not push the DPS needed to clear a check. There are a TON of players right now that are STILL learning their roles. Don't compare the hardcore blitzers to those who are casually taking their time.

Seriously, your comparison is like saying that you should be ashamed if you have an i130 DRG in a T13 party pre-patch and not clearing just because everyone else was i123. @_@ Stop being rediculous.

Which eventually you are driving at the same thing I'm driving at

"git gud or get rekt"

Seriously unless your party is full of DRK/AST/MCH then fine, new jobs. But if you are talking about a party with at least IL160 pieces from dungeons and a IL170 weapon on old jobs and still failed Bismarck then yes, the only remedy is to get better.

[Eidolon]

Which eventually you are driving at the same thing I'm driving at

"git gud or get rekt"

Seriously unless your party is full of DRK/AST/MCH then fine, new jobs. But if you are talking about a party with at least IL160 pieces from dungeons and a IL170 weapon on old jobs and still failed Bismarck then yes, the only remedy is to get better.

Seriously, you're not understanding what I'm saying.

Just because YOU are i179, does not mean it's going to be a "Garunteed win on DPS." There are 3 other DPS and 2 tanks who contribute damage to the fight. If other people are lacking, that can cause you to be unable to clear.

The point we're both making is different. You want them to "Getgud", but it might just be that they haven't found others who are "Gud" yet. This is coming from an i180 Warrior who can literally out-DPS most other DPS in Ravana-EX... To me, it's easy. But I have partners BY MY SIDE who are good. I have people I can rely on.