Dark Knight a more moderate Discussion and Suggestion Thread

[Taranok]

Because we only have two cooldowns that are for physical, we also have an OH SH-- button which is living dead. Warrior and Paladin have both three cooldowns as well as an OH SH-- button. They have a reliable cooldown every 30 seconds to use, and if we use our entire toolset we have one cooldown for every 45-50 seconds.

Living dead isn't a panic button, just as Holmgang isn't a panic button. The only true panic button in this game is Hallowed Ground, because Holmgang and Living Dead both put the healers on notice to fix the problem, and don't give much time, if any, to recover a disastrous situation. Yes, it's a "survive everything!" button, but a panic button it is not.

[Falgern]

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No matter what you wish to call it, you can call it rainbow power for all I care, dark knights need to have either enough cooldowns or abilities changed in a way that lets them have a way of mitigating damage at the same rate as the two other tanks. And the focus word here is mitigate. IE lower the damage from an ability, not take the entire ability's worth of damage to your face. Warriors and paladins can already reduce physical damage taken every 30 seconds. Heavensward has been all about generalizing the classes to make sure the toolset is roughly the same, if dark knights are ever to be considered an asset and not a liability they need to be changed to be able to provide the "service" as the other two tanks.

[Faytte]

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No they don't. Let me say it another way. While I agree a Dark Knight needs to be able to do content like other tanks, they should not need to do it as well--paladins for instance certainly PAY for all their great defensive cooldowns by lacking lots of other tools. Take Paladins AOE damage (LOL) or aoe threat in general--or their mobility, or burst damage. They don't have these things (which conversly, Dark Knights are fantastic at).

You cannot have your cake and eat it as well. I'm not saying Dark doesnt need help, but you should in no way mitigate like a paladin--because that would mean your class would need lots of nerfs in the places where you are actually quite strong, even if they are not in 'mitigation.