Just delete the hunts for centiruon seals or add other ways to get them

[silentwindfr]

Actually, according to the OP, it is.

"Give us some other method to get better gear. "

An alternative method of obtaining the gear already exists, has been mentioned multiple times, and still ignored.

i will be blunt dude, i did read your answer and seriously are you a troll?

i means the op don't ask for easier way to get gear, but for a better system, the actual system is a garbage, daily and weekly stuff don't change the fact that hunt turn the world and the server into a giant farce.
the toxicity of the community come from the design of the hunt, make free for all content into a game with soo many people wanting to be involved into it. you do have 1 Rank S and 1 Rank A per zone, you can have more of 1000 people that want to get them.... how you want a free for all system to work? it can't!

1 monster for 1000+ person is idiot! (and i say 1000+ but it can be easily far more in a few week) i will be more blunt, even 1 monster for 40 person is a joke! it's not a hunt it's a zergfest! defend this joke that are called hunt is scary.

i feel the whole system is not adapted to the community nor the population into the game, a lot of different system was proposed by the community since the first day hunt was announced, but look at what we did get. we did get a FATE systeme without UI. that the true behind hunt a FATE systeme without UI.

it can't be called hunt or fun, it's a junk, a garbage, a failure as feature of mmorpg! if you find me hard you don't imagine how much i did wait for the hunt, i did expect them to bring us something really challenging and interesting and what we did get is nothing more than a way to please old school player that was crying for NM. when the NM was and will be always toxic!

you can't expect player to be fair play or nice with other, mankind is not that nice! i'm with the op on this, Hunt in this form need to be scrapped and be changed into something more adapted, more challenging, more fun and more important, something that can be really called hunt.

believe me when i say they have miss the chance to create something soo much better that will have offer a nice metagaming experience.

[Kosmos992k]

the toxicity of the community come from the design of the hunt, .

I beg to differ. The toxicity of the community comes from the community, it is simply convinient to blame the dsign of the hunt rather than make people face up to therchoice in behavior.

[Rynia]

I beg to differ. The toxicity of the community comes from the community, it is simply convinient to blame the dsign of the hunt rather than make people face up to therchoice in behavior.

Put simply, you're right but wrong at the same time.

Yes, the toxicity is the fault of the playerbase. But the design of the hunts means that it can't be played the way it's intended (small parties taking down the hunt) because there aren't enough hunts to go around. I'm told there are two A ranks in each new zone every 4 hours, which is 20 total, which is 160 people assuming full 8-man parties. That is hardly even a dent in any server's population.

The hunts should be instanced/something you pop as a party, like treasure maps. If they'd just been implemented this way from the start this entire mess could have been avoided.

[Warlyx]

I beg to differ. The toxicity of the community comes from the community, it is simply convinient to blame the dsign of the hunt rather than make people face up to therchoice in behavior.

when Devs create open world content like this , im not sure what they expect ....and Hunts isnt something "new" , we have been there done that in 2.3.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"

[Kosmos992k]

when Devs create open world content like this , im not sure what they expect ....and Hunts isnt something "new" , we have been there done that in 2.3.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"

Nothing you wrote alters the simple fact that if the players did not form a zerg army, the content works as designed. Similar to the FATE-trains that currently look utterly ridiculous zerging FATE in Northern Than. The truth is that players are in general lazy and will use the easiest - often described as the most efficient - method for doing things. These same over-geared players are the ones that bitch about things being too easy - when they heavily out gear it already; or complain of being bored because dungeons are too easy, or quests are boring, orwhatever else. At the end of the day, I think this really comes down to players who only see the shinies and want the most efficient way to get it.

Ultimately that is a very empty way to play a game that offers far more than gearing. I've lost track of the number of times these same kind of complaints have been made by players here. I'm sorry, but I'm tired of them, if people cannot control themselves better and gorge themselves on content - like content locusts - then they have no one and nothing to blame but themself.

[silentwindfr]

I beg to differ. The toxicity of the community comes from the community, it is simply convinient to blame the dsign of the hunt rather than make people face up to therchoice in behavior.

simply no, when you design a feature while not thinking of the mankind fault, you fail miserably. i'm violent but that the truth. the hunt are by design not adapted to the playerbase we have. we can argue all day about it, but this sole fact remain true. a few monster for the huge player base a la free for all, it's not an error it's a failure as game developper.

it don't make the community work together, most of player spaming "inv hunt", nor will encourage fair play, this feature is not adapted to the playerbase playing the game! you can try to defend it, that don't change it. people are complaining from Day 1 of the release of hunt, it's not without reason... it's because they have drop on us something that did come from mmorpg old of 10+ years ago. do it make it a good feature, no... this feature did worked in this old mmorpg, because most of them was giving craps... people wasn't doing it for get best stuff... here the hunt allows you to get the best stuff.

I will be blunt here: can you not read?

There is an alternative way to gain "better" gear that's not done through Rank A/S Hunts. That's what the OP asked for, and it already exists.

However, people continue to charade around like it doesn't exist, or that it's not a "good enough" alternative; I've already stated why.

*sighs* tiring to read your answer, what it was asked it's to change the system for make it adapted to the game and playerbase, it's that hard to understand?
you have good alternative, already ingame that need little change for make it part of the hunt and you can develop a system based on the leves + fate for create something more hunt like. but the trouble is, people did complain in the past, that not enough world content was present and that too much instance content was present (while talking of the leves system) but even with area of 100 km² you will still have trouble with this much people per area, it's not without reason that they did add an instance system. it's because we are too many per area already! you want some good alternative?

there from another post:

-1) make the FATE of boss killing reward seal of hunt, they are not different of the rank B, A, S, the only difference it's they are noted on the map. but the advantage to do this, it's to make possible for people to go in any area and get seal without fight about early pull or get toxic. other good point with this, it don't need a whole change of the game or the feature, since they simply need to place the right hunt seal instead of the GC seal.

-2) make the rare monster from leves reward be hunt seal, one more time a simple change, it will make more interesting to do leves for the one that want to get seal.

-3) change how work the hunt board, this one will recquire more change than the two before, but if it's well done... it can be quite interesting and give to the player that want non raid content or dungeon content something to do. how do this?
- first the dailies, begin by take out the limitation from it (you can adapt the reward for match this change), for each series completed your earn a token of hunt. this one is used for get special hunt request. (will talk of it after)
- second the rank B and A, take them out and only leave the Rank S, for this last one, reduce the reward and the respawn. you must make it an option for get the hunt seal, not the only one.
- Hunt request, a new system (that will be the most hard to work on but listen to me until the end), with the token from the old dailies, you can buy hunt request, that will work like a leves system, but will have a particularity. it will only say you, which area is the monster, after you launch the hunt request (requiring all the member of the group to be close of the leader) you will have 10 minutes for find and kill the target of the hunt request. for make simple we mix the hunt system actual, plus the leves system. why do this? because like this... no one will fight with other for get him hunt.

about the hunt request system, they can work on monster challenge and add some every patch because it's not different that simply design a boss fight without an area specific. they can even us old boss and change them a bit for add flavor and deep in the world. where it can be a killing, it will be possible to add hunt request for solo player, 4 player, 8 player or 24 player. it will give something to the FC to do outside raid. a good oppoturnity to offer to FC new activity.

with this system you can even work on a leaderboard about a guild that do the most hunt, adding a whole different type of gameplay to the game. and the best, no free for all.... then no complain about people early pulling or people not waiting... since your hunt is your hunt. and like i have said they can leave the rank S and adding more challenge from them fight, by reducing the reward and the respawn, while adding all the stuff i have said, you will have a deep system that will offer different option for get the same reward, meaning, people will not all be on the same option for get them reward. some will do fate, other rank S, other hunt request and even some will do leves.

more option, more challenge, more fun... no zerg, no toxic feature and more important no outdate feature a la free for all into a game with more of 3000 people per server!

ps: i was too lazy for rewrite this hehehe

[GideonHighmourn]

i will be blunt dude, i did read your answer and seriously are you a troll?

I will be blunt here: can you not read?

There is an alternative way to gain "better" gear that's not done through Rank A/S Hunts. That's what the OP asked for, and it already exists.

However, people continue to charade around like it doesn't exist, or that it's not a "good enough" alternative; I've already stated why.