Bard is utterly destroyed

[Duelle]

I thought wanderer's was something you would put up just long enough to hit Iron Jaws/Sidewinder/Empyreal before dropping it, maybe holding longer if you have buffs up.

This would work if WM were instant instead of having a 3-second cast time.

[Hassal]

I thought wanderer's was something you would put up just long enough to hit Iron Jaws/Sidewinder/Empyreal before dropping it, maybe holding longer if you have buffs up.

Ive done some dummy testing and this^ is the worse way to play bard. from what I've found is that playing bard with 2.X in mind is the most effective way to play still. WM is awesome in short burst fights or opening of fights. when doing boss fight i will start in WM and pop all my CD's and then shut it off. only time I will turn it back on is if there is a pause in the fight or if barrage, E. Arrow and sidewinder are all of CD. seems that i sit at a steady 700-750 that way.

Also for groups of 2-4 I will full time WM and just cycle my dots on everything, RoD when off CD and keep everything's dots on with iron jaw. this allows me with 4 people to do one more GCD and OGCD before having to reapply iron on one mob.

[JadeS]

Just make EA and IJ not require WM. Would just love bard after that.

[Panasync]

Those are dummy parses though. Realistically melees are going to parse lower on any actual fight compared to dummies. Bard dps however is not affected by like 90% of mechanics... I havn't seen any real issues regarding bard dps in any of the primal fights so far.

Not affected? Bard gets to sit in a single spot the entire set of fights?

[awesomeuno]

Not affected? Bard gets to sit in a single spot the entire set of fights?

Pretty sure she meant if you were playing 2.x style bard in those fights (which you kinda have to do)

[Maero]

I knew this would come up as soon as they announced cast times. Level black mage and it will only make you a better Bard.
Disagree fine but i have played all dps classes and it is only of my opinion.
Bard was my main and still play it but switched to blm when started to raid and such and FC had plenty of Bards
The class is not destroyed because less mobility...
I agree Bard was about mobility but they changed it, so learn the class to its max and move on

[Evangela]

I noticed that they do lame damage everytime I have a bard in party.

[Entropic]

Dmg buff ASAP.

it's utter garbage to be around tank levels of dps -.-

[Panasync]

Pretty sure she meant if you were playing 2.x style bard in those fights (which you kinda have to do)

Even so the fact we can't sit in a DPS stance affects DPS, exactly like a DPS not being able to sit next to the boss without moving affects it. Just because we're technically still able to hit the boss, our numbers are significantly lower resulting in still lower DPS. If anything it's more of a condemnation. Even with melee DPS moving wildly we probably still lose the parse.

[Panasync]

I knew this would come up as soon as they announced cast times. Level black mage and it will only make you a better Bard.
Disagree fine but i have played all dps classes and it is only of my opinion.

The class is not destroyed because less mobility...
I agree Bard was about mobility but they changed it, so learn the class to its max and move on

1.) If we wanted to play BLM so we can play BRD, why not just play BLM? I don't want to play a BLM with a bow skin instead of a staff.
2.) Bard as we know it dies @level 52. It is not the class it was designed to be from 2.0-3.0, and what it fundamentally was designed as.
3.) Sorry I honestly doubt if they turned BLM into a melee DPS that used fire and ice punches people would ok with, "learn it or move on". It's bad for the game, for the players, and it's just an odd dismissive attitude that quite frankly has no place in most if not all discussions. It's not how problems are solved and fixed.