Bard is utterly destroyed

[Darkthrone]

Just raise the bow wpn dmg. TY.

[Snowaeth]

Just raise the bow wpn dmg. TY.

What about no?

Bow dmg is not the issue, new skills that don't work with the kit are.
Having high damage but horrible gameplay doesn't fix things. It just masks the problem.

[Spawnie]

god the amount of people Q.Qing cause the new changes to bard.. bet half of them havent even used wanderers minuet more then once lol

i love the new skills n playstyle :3

off topic tho but is sidewinder bugged?? skill description says can only be used under the effect of wanderer's minuet but i can use it without it o.O

[ChloeGrace]

Thanks SE for ruining bard. I can't even play machinist, either, they're virtual clones - and this coming from a bard main since launch.
It's a giant F U, nothing less. Yoshi-P, you should be ashamed.

[yamochan]

well tha one i will push as well cause why not 2 bard is ruined topics with 20+ pages this is seems to be more flame heavy so yeah lets do it: BARDS SUCKS NOW THX SE!!!!!

[SethLex]

I wholeheartedly agree with the title of this thread.
... and with the title of the other thread also.

[Kitkat]

Quite a few changes should be made to bring bard closer to on par with other dps. Barrage should have 2 stance options: Act like it did previously when not in WM, 3x WS when in WM. Weapon damage needs to be increased. WM needs to be an instant effect and have a much more noticeable buff increase to be worth sacrificing Auto attack/mobility/OGCD ability spams. Having 50% reset proc rate isn't as useful if you can't really keep using it every time it is up in WM.

I don't dislike the way they changed brd, but they didn't make it worth using quite as much as they should have. The DoT changes aren't really making up for the loss of Auto attacks in the stance.

[Wishles]

Bard's DPS ceiling is just so low compared to other classes in 3.0 who can achieve 1,000+ with relative ease. We have to depend on dragoons to maximize our damage; without dragoons, we have such a low cap at end-game right now that it makes making the Bismarck EX even a challenge for many parties. As a result, there's a reluctance to take more than a BRD and/or MCH, which makes the class very difficult to play when parties hesitate to invite you knowing you're the weakest DPS. Why invite a BRD when you can get 400 more DPS from a SMN or DRG?

[Scyris]

Losing auto attack is also a big part of it, a bards auto attack does 20-25% of their total dps on average, WM would be fine if they just enabled auto attack during it, it'd be enough to bring bard inline with the other dps.

[Athism]

Losing auto attack is also a big part of it, a bards auto attack does 20-25% of their total dps on average, WM would be fine if they just enabled auto attack during it, it'd be enough to bring bard inline with the other dps.

I agree, but idk if auto attacks is enough to make up 700-800 dps. i179 nins are doing 1700 dps, i179 brd only 800ish..its just not enough.