The Definitive Dark Knight Guide

[JayCommon]

So you're saying you hit 2200-3k with Echo? I hit 1950 in a lvl 60 dungeon no echo. I imagine with the 20% or so buff I would get a bit closer to that too.

No, my 3k crit was not with Echo, it was offtanking in DPS stance in Bismarck EX. It wasn't a Souleater either, it was a Carve and Spit. I believe its 30 more potency than a Dark Arts Souleater. I'm not exactly sure what's so surprising about this.

You did a 1950 crit while tanking a dungeon, I presume while in Grit. Add +20% to the base for being out of Grit alone and youre getting closer to 2400-2500 for your crit. I may have more strength and critical hit rate then you because of accs. Item level isn't everything...

[Daega]

No, my 3k crit was not with Echo, it was offtanking in DPS stance in Bismarck EX. It wasn't a Souleater either, it was a Carve and Spit. I believe its 30 more potency than a Dark Arts Souleater. I'm not exactly sure what's so surprising about this.

You did a 1950 crit while tanking a dungeon, I presume while in Grit. Add +20% to the base for being out of Grit alone and youre getting closer to 2400-2500 for your crit. I may have more strength and critical hit rate then you because of accs. Item level isn't everything...

Yes, I'm aware of that. That's just a considerable gap when I've never noticed a huge jump in dps with my time from 30-60, just steady. I'm also focused on i180 for progression, not crit/det for dps output atm. Especially since there's not a huge variety of gear if any besides accessories.