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    At least you can use the Thundercloud proc when you have to move, if nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    At least you can use the Thundercloud proc when you have to move, if nothing else.
    Good luck keeping up Enochain and Astral Fire when using Thundercloud procs. Using them in Astral Fire can actively punish your dps as you have to revert to a single F4, before refreshing astral fire, rather than two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    Good luck keeping up Enochain and Astral Fire when using Thundercloud procs. Using them in Astral Fire can actively punish your dps as you have to revert to a single F4, before refreshing astral fire, rather than two.
    You lose one F4 every time you move, anyway -- unless you can stay inside Ley while dodging -- and a full duration Thundercloud is 100 more potency than F4, if it doesn't clip at all. A rare situation, but I think it can have its uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    You lose one F4 every time you move, anyway -- unless you can stay inside Ley while dodging -- and a full duration Thundercloud is 100 more potency than F4, if it doesn't clip at all. A rare situation, but I think it can have its uses.
    You can't assume full duration of Thundercloud though. Most of the time you get it, there is already duration remaining. Furthermore, you then have to use a F1 afterwards, which costs more Mana than a F4, meaning you'll lose another F4 from your rotation later on.

    It shouldn't be a DPS loss to lose procs.
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