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  1. #121
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    MaethusXion's Avatar
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    Makoto Edakumi
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    On-Topic: The kid in OP's pic is cute, despite the face being... just OFF.

    Off-Topic:
    Hybrid races. People always, always, ALWAYS bring up Lala/Miq. There's also been mentioned of Midlander/Elezen and Highlander/Roe. BUT! We now have SEVEN Races. That means that SE would have to, to be fair, make Lala/Miq, Lala/Midlander, Lala/Highlander, Lala/Elezen, Lala/Roe(lol giant potato), Lala/Auri, etc, and even then only a few of those would actually be used(Lala/Miq, Lala/Auri, Mid/Highlander/Elezen, Mid/Highlander/Miq, Mid/Highlander/Auri), leaving probably half or more of these hybrids unused...

    Just thought I'd bring that second bit up because people always focus on the Lala/Miq hybrid and none of the other possible combinations.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
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    ..are YOU serious with that post?

    By your reasoning a pedophile would also be unable to physically harass anyone behind a monitor, and of course he would be unable to molest his own in-game character. What's your point?
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  3. #123
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    lordoftheapes79's Avatar
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    Children npcs good, areas like the foundation could use more. As playable characters, no, not necessary. The androgynous twins are close enough. Gimme the beast tribes as playable races. I wanna be a kobold!
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  4. #124
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    MichiKyou's Avatar
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    Mevra Noor
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaethusXion View Post
    On-Topic: The kid in OP's pic is cute, despite the face being... just OFF.

    Off-Topic:
    Hybrid races. People always, always, ALWAYS bring up Lala/Miq. There's also been mentioned of Midlander/Elezen and Highlander/Roe. BUT! We now have SEVEN Races. That means that SE would have to, to be fair, make Lala/Miq, Lala/Midlander, Lala/Highlander, Lala/Elezen, Lala/Roe(lol giant potato), Lala/Auri, etc, and even then only a few of those would actually be used(Lala/Miq, Lala/Auri, Mid/Highlander/Elezen, Mid/Highlander/Miq, Mid/Highlander/Auri), leaving probably half or more of these hybrids unused...

    Just thought I'd bring that second bit up because people always focus on the Lala/Miq hybrid and none of the other possible combinations.
    Because. -Tinier- Anime race of moeness.

    (Waifu race confirmed)
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    Square, can we have an OCE fanfest now?

  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordoftheapes79 View Post
    Children npcs good, areas like the foundation could use more. As playable characters, no, not necessary. The androgynous twins are close enough. Gimme the beast tribes as playable races. I wanna be a kobold!
    I'd love bangaa or even Nomou to be a playable race.
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    Square, can we have an OCE fanfest now?

  6. #126
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    Kaedan94's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    ..are YOU serious with that post?

    By your reasoning a pedophile would also be unable to physically harass anyone behind a monitor, and of course he would be unable to molest his own in-game character. What's your point?
    I don't think you comprehended.

    A gun fanatic or arsonist can't cause any harm in the game. The best they could do is spout their propoganda, but you can blacklist them. A pedophile with the ability to create a child character can, by simply doing what I said. Others are forced to see his disgusting habits. Blacklisting doesn't make someone disappear.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    I don't think you comprehended.

    A gun fanatic or arsonist can't cause any harm in the game. The best they could do is spout their propoganda, but you can blacklist them. A pedophile with the ability to create a child character can, by simply doing what I said. Others are forced to see his disgusting habits. Blacklisting doesn't make someone disappear.
    You're actually making the case for obscenity right there, not pedophilia, as one cannot have sex with their character nor are they human beings that can be subject to abuse.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bablioteca View Post
    You're actually making the case for obscenity right there, not pedophilia, as one cannot have sex with their character nor are they human beings that can be subject to abuse.
    Pedophilia isn't the act of sexual relations with children, that's only one possible aspect of it. Pedophilia is sexual feelings and expressions towards children. Regardless, it would essentially be child pornography.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    You can't actually be serious? What a poor argument.

    A gun fanatic can't shoot you through your computer screen. An up-and-coming arsonist can't set fire to your house through the internet. A pedophile could dress said character in provocative clothing, or simply walk around in nothing but underwear.

    The difference between doing it with a miquote and a child? One is quite obviously an adult and the other is not.
    Ok. Got me there. But let me pose this question, then. What if SE handled it responsibly? If the unequipped child's attire consisted T-shirts for girls and shorts that fell to their knees for both genders? If the bikinis changed to one pieces for the girls? It's known, for a fact, that race/gender affects gear appearance for some items, so this wont be a big issue dev-side. If all 'erotic' clothing was changed to a modest appearance for this race (or in the case of Play Boy Bunny, simply denied the ability to equip it), would you still have an issue with the child character?

    Another problem with this 'ermagerd pedos' argument is that people assume SE wont take measures to prevent the sluttifying of the characters. And as far as rule 34 goes, there's nothing anyone can do about that, except be careful what they browse. This wouldn't encourage rule 34 anymore than The Simpsons does.

    Personally, I would like to see the option available. It would add more creativity to the creation process, and give us a much wider range of characters. I would like to see the child adventurer, as well as the aged adventurer who has a walking-stick in one hand, and a great sword in the other. Variety is the spice of life.
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    Last edited by HodgepodgeMcDodge; 06-26-2015 at 11:22 AM. Reason: Drunk typing, whee

  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyrusticae View Post
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    I'm sorry, but I'd desperately hope SE would be above the creators of TERA, both in game quality and racial options. Plus.. It still doesn't help the fact that people will sexualize them. Like, /blist and all is fine, but I'd prefer not to see grown adults play underage people jumping around in the taffeta set, because you and I both know what they're most likely thinking about.

    Cool, Lalafell are a thing, heck Auri women are a thing (I still argue that they look way too childlike and should've given us some actual mature options with regard to them with one of the clans). I'd rather not come even closer to allowing legitimate actual children as PC though. Even if you go the Elin route, at the end of the day it's still 1000 yr old children that folks will end up sexualizing.

    I'm not on your side either, but you'd rather allow SE to further pander to a really gross demographic, so I'm sure I'd not want to be on your side. Seriously, are your personal aesthetic tastes worth more to you than keeping the game from being further polluted with some really gross people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Meh, fair point. It is a term quite commonly used when dealing with japanese media tho, to the point that it tends to refer to any kind of young-looking character. The original meaning is not always implied. But I see what you mean.
    Nooot really plenty of people use it with regards to sexualizing younger looking girls, like they're a reason why Hayao Miyazaki talks so negatively about "loli" and "lolicons".. you might see it used with "Lolita" because "Loli" is a shortened form of it, which game from a Russian book about an older man in love with a 12 year old. It's just not a good word to use, from it's origins to the modern day usage. "Shojo" would be the word you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by HodgepodgeMcDodge View Post
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    They're a fundamental difference between having a child character and giving a person (Specifically an adult) the ability to have control over a child character, the latter having a lot more creeper tones especially considering that they'd be allowed to do a lot of stuff just through well /em.
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    Last edited by Samcaesar; 06-26-2015 at 11:38 AM.

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