XI-2 was released this past September, or didn't you notice?

[Tsuga]

Anyway, when we all say "identical" and "similar," we aren't talking about every SINGLE tiny trivial detail like you seem to think we are. Instead of "nit-picking" aspects of our arguments to use as ammunition against us, why don't *you try reading our posts more carefully. More often than not, the only reason anyone EVER brings up the similarities, between XIV and XI, is to try and battle the logic that dictates "XI sucks, so we don't want anything from it coming to XIV or it will suck too" -too LATE, XI content was there before you even knew the game existed...[races, bazaars, linkshells/pearls, architecture, music, landscape and terrain, many from the XI crew as you said so yourself, all the chat features, chat log colors (green ls chat, pink /tell chat, teal party chat, orange /sh chat, and so on), and SO much more]. I wish you wouldn't have brought this up again. You ppl really hit a nerve w/ me. And yes, my BELOVED XI is extremely special to me. It and school were the only escapes I had when I was a kid. So, forgive me if I don't want to let it go completely when there's already so much there, practically slapping me in the face, saying "I am XI-2...play me, and love me."

The thing is, like you stated in this paragraph, XI and XIV are mostly only similar in appearance and aesthetic. The main reason behind this (which has been stated in interviews) is that XIV started out as an HD remake of XI, and then the team took it in a new direction. This game was mostly sold to us on the idea that it would be something different, which is why a lot of the people (myself included) would rather the devs NOT lean on dated ideas from XI.

Some things from XI worked, but it is not the only place that SE can borrow ideas from. So many people on these forums only have XI as a reference point because it's the only MMO that they have spent a significant amount of time with, so naturally a lot of the suggestions we get on this forum are "Bring X from XI, because it was better than Y from XIV!". If SE is not going to be original, I would rather them steal from systems that are more modern than from a game that was dated within a couple of years of its release.

Again, I understand that you are saying that SOME things from XI were great, and it can't hurt to look to those ideas for inspiration. There is just usually a better solution than "copy this from XI, it was good".

This still goin' on? I got the popcorn, who wants some?

Naturally. The first post pretty much trolls a good portion of the player-base, so people are going to be responding to that until this thread gets locked.

[Khal_Drogo]

The thing is, like you stated in this paragraph, XI and XIV are mostly only similar in appearance and aesthetic. The main reason behind this (which has been stated in interviews) is that XIV started out as an HD remake of XI, and then the team took it in a new direction.

Some things from XI worked, but it is not the only place that SE can borrow ideas from.... Again, I understand that you are saying that SOME things from XI were great, and it can't hurt to look to those ideas for inspiration. There is just usually a better solution than "copy this from XI, it was good".

Ya, I see where ya'll are coming from now. It's true that I (as well as many others, I'm sure) have, absolutely, no experience with *any MMO other than FFXI. I don't think Halo and CoD count, so I won't bother "pretending" that I do lol So, naturally our suggestions are going to be kind of biased. But we're not so close-minded that we're saying XI was perfect, and "we want every problem that SE is having w/ XIV to be solved using XI. That would probably turn XIV into an awful game xD

I don't know if we chased off all the haters, or if ppl are finally starting to understand what I *really meant by my first post. You pretty much summed up everything that I was trying to say in one paragraph Tsuga lol -I think I'll add that to the original post to try and calm ppl down. Thanks for the input.

[Aeyis]

Ya, I see where ya'll are coming from now. It's true that I (as well as many others, I'm sure) have, absolutely, no experience with *any MMO other than FFXI. I don't think Halo and CoD count, so I won't bother "pretending" that I do lol So, naturally our suggestions are going to be kind of biased. But we're not so close-minded that we're saying XI was perfect, and "we want every problem that SE is having w/ XIV to be solved using XI. That would probably turn XIV into an awful game xD

I don't know if we chased off all the haters, or if ppl are finally starting to understand what I *really meant by my first post. You pretty much summed up everything that I was trying to say in one paragraph Tsuga lol -I think I'll add that to the original post to try and calm ppl down. Thanks for the input.

That's not what your thread title is saying tho.

[Khal_Drogo]

That's not what your thread title is saying tho.

lol nope, the title was meant to get my point across in the most spiteful way possible...Mission accomplished, I guess. I was actually just hoping to pull in abuncha ppl who *agreed w/ me, and have us all just talk back and forth about how right we are, and how wrong and ignorant "they" are lol

And, then, I envisioned a thread with thousands and thousands of views and replies, and SE deciding that, clearly, ppl loved XI, and that they should (at the very least) adopt the former job system from XI, or some sort of XI/XIV hybrid xD

Instead, it turned into a long drawn-out "fight" of denial and insinuation.

[LillithaFenimore]

lol nope, the title was meant to get my point across in the most spiteful way possible...Mission accomplished, I guess. I was actually just hoping to pull in abuncha ppl who *agreed w/ me, and have us all just talk back and forth about how right we are, and how wrong and ignorant "they" are lol Instead, it turned into a long drawn-out "fight" of denial and insinuation.

It's a public forum...what did you expect? A welcoming comittee? /facepalm

[Haji]

lol nope, the title was meant to get my point across in the most spiteful way possible...Mission accomplished, I guess. I was actually just hoping to pull in abuncha ppl who *agreed w/ me, and have us all just talk back and forth about how right we are, and how wrong and ignorant "they" are lol

From Urban Dictionary site:

troll - One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

Have you just admited something or is it just me?

[LillithaFenimore]

From Urban Dictionary site:



Have you just admited something or is it just me?

Ouch....don't you think that stings just a bit ?

[Khal_Drogo]

From Urban Dictionary site:

troll - One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

Have you just admited something or is it just me?

Actually, as I said, I wanted to bring in ppl who would advocate my ideas, not abuncha anti-XI a#@holes who get butt-hurt for someone posting a "fun" topic title. It was a cynical joke that got lost on ppl WAY too serious to even be on this thread. I had NO *intention of causing maximum disruption and argument. As I'm sure you probably noticed...I don't like to be second guessed -part of being a narcissist lol

Here's a perfect portrayal of what I think of myself (Hint: I'm Alec ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g2dkDh4ov4

Furthermore, much of what was covered in here was very productive until ppl like you came in here, Troll...so, before you start pointing fingers at everyone, why don't you take a moment to evaluate your own actions.