Your thoughts on Astrolgian so far?

[SenzorialBoundries]

All this butthurt about ast srsly , ast is fine the way it is , its hybrid class and it will never ever ever ever be better than its direct counterpart at either shielding/mitigation or healing , by doing that ast will be too strong. Too many ppl hyped about ast and the flashiness of their skills same as drk , you all want the cake and eat it too, but no.

[Yumi_umi]

With the current trend of tanks speed running these dungeons "non over geared tanks" make it reeaaaaaally hard to keep up.
7/10 times after all those big pulls i ask for my mp to re charge at boss but they dont care and just pull = me having to heal with only 20-30% mp ish.
Seriously barely any tanks will wait for u now to recover cuz they expect u to just "magically" recover mp during the fight like a sch. U chug all tht remaining mp while u let ur refresh work = still at 20% mp lol

Ppl always want to take the easier path = why bring ast if the other healers r more stronger in the current meta of mass pulling/ high aoe burst dmg.

I'd love to see someone solo heal as ast, even with echo it just seems impossible.

[Yumi_umi]

All this butthurt about ast srsly , ast is fine the way it is , its hybrid class and it will never ever ever ever be better than its direct counterpart at either shielding/mitigation or healing , by doing that ast will be too strong. Too many ppl hyped about ast and the flashiness of their skills same as drk , you all want the cake and eat it too, but no.

We got no cake, all we got was a fork to help other ppl eat the cake at our own expense. Hence the support type.

[Violet_Magenta]

We got no cake, all we got was a fork to help other ppl eat the cake at our own expense. Hence the support type.

agreed. Sometimes I don't think people really understand. In fact I think SCH got their cake and got to eat it too - they have not really sacrificed much for their versatility and utility (support, dps and decent heals with fairy AND excellent mp amangement).

It's just going to be summoner and dragoon all over again - people are going to refuse to raid with ast's unless they get decent buffs.

[Seryl199]

I've yet to play truly challenging 8 man content, but in the few 8 mans I've played, most healers don't really know how to react to Astrologian. They tend to act as though you are the WHM to their SCH, or vice versa, or ignore you entirely, but I don't think AST will be able to shine like that. They simply don't have the specialization. I feel that AST should act to cover the other healer's blind spots, while they work to cover AST's.

The WHM/AST dynamic seems fairly straightforward, WHM healing like they do best, with AST buffing and DPS'ing, stepping in to mitigate and spot heal. AST/SCH seems fuzzy, but I'm curious to see how they work if they meet halfway. AST needs some help to deal with burst healing, which brings up complaints about SCH's DPS uptime, but you end up with two healers that can buff the party in myriad ways and apply high potency DoT's without the need for accuracy to compensate. I'd need to spend some time with coordinated players to really feel out the dynamics of full party play.

That puts AST in a tricky position, because it benefits the most from interacting with the other healer. WHM and SCH act more as separate entities working towards the same goal, whereas AST seeks to cooperate with the other. This isn't inherently a bad thing, except for the fact that, if your co-healer goes down, you'll find yourself in a tight spot very fast if they can't be revived in time for important mechanics. I'll withhold my judgement for now, not having much first hand experience, but I still find AST to be a lot of fun to play, and don't plan on quitting it any time soon.

[Nague]

what is this legendary AST support i heear so much about?

Has anyone seen it?



Certainly cant be the 5% party AE speed buff or dmg bonus every minute with optimal cards?
Because the scholar fairy can do that too.

[GideonHighmourn]

While it's true they are in a tricky position, I'm not sure how you're supposed to "cooperate" with each other with AST in the group. At most, I see that as meaning you'll have to spend more time healing (to make up for the difference) and managing mana, while AST flips through cards and hopefully pulls an Ewer to help you out on MP. AST lacks heavily on burst healing capability and on-demand utility; something both WHM and SCH bring to the table, respectively.

I see working alongside AST to be more trouble than it's worth and less reliable, so far. I'm just not seeing AST as equal in value to what a WHM or SCH brings to the table, especially when all fights are heavily scripted and patterned. SCH will always have Sacred Soil, Fey Wind, etc. AST will never be able to rely on pulling the proper card combinations at the right time.

[Shamirah]

All this butthurt about ast srsly , ast is fine the way it is , its hybrid class and it will never ever ever ever be better than its direct counterpart at either shielding/mitigation or healing , by doing that ast will be too strong. Too many ppl hyped about ast and the flashiness of their skills same as drk , you all want the cake and eat it too, but no.

Lol. Please if it is to post stupid thing, don't bother.

Hybrid class ? how is AST an hybrid class ? Can it dps ? No, a SCH and a WHM do it better. Can it tank ? no.
Oh you're talking about the cards ? Those random thing that never give you what you need and which are minor at best ? yeah, no. AND Fyi, your fairy has a mass dispell and a party wide haste buff, which is not random.

Please tell me more about the hybrid class that is AST.

Did we ask to be better ? No. Did we asked to be ON PAR ? yes.

[Aphel]

We're flexible, so it's a given that we'll be weaker than WHM in terms of raw healing power and SCH in terms of mitigation. However we need to have a robust card system to make up for the shortfall and in its current state it just isn't sufficient.

Not to mention we are plagued with some of the most mind boggling abilities like Celestial Opposition (You get to extend your buffs by 5 secs, every 150 sec wow that sure helps) and Collective Unconscious (mediocre healing/mitigation but in exchange you can't do anything else). What's up with these!?

[Kiaris]

We're flexible, so it's a given that we'll be weaker than WHM in terms of raw healing power and SCH in terms of mitigation. However we need to have a robust card system to make up for the shortfall and in its current state it just isn't sufficient.

Not to mention we are plagued with some of the most mind boggling abilities like Celestial Opposition (You get to extend your buffs by 5 secs, every 150 sec wow that sure helps) and Collective Unconscious (mediocre healing/mitigation but in exchange you can't do anything else). What's up with these!?

A robust card system ?
Please explain to use how the cards are good ?

Tell me when there is that DPS check, your going to pull a Royal Road card buff and save us all.. Then ill show you how yoru most likely getting Spire or ewer.