Your thoughts on Astrolgian so far?

[Krixus]

Just parsed the aery, running it for the first time in i130 gear, and only 55 (think 56 is cap in there). Parsed 100 dps 146k dmg, and thats not including dmg my cards added to the group. Had a Drk for tank and he did 190 dps. I dont think thats bad at all, also had no issues healing.

I have had no one try to leave a dungeon when I joined as an astro lol, havn't heard anything about that either. Xenohart your fc is just close minded and judging a job before alexander is even out... Keep in mind people, i'd say 70% of ffxiv's healers suck at healing, as any healer. Stack that with all the new players trying out astro when they dont even main a healer job. Of course you are going to see weak performance.

In harder content you do not need top potency, and with gear it gets to the point that its too easy to heal as whm/sch, so why wouldnt astro have a spot? The lower potency is being extremely exagerated, the cures are hardly different.

[Kiaris]

Just parsed the aery, running it for the first time in i130 gear, and only 55 (think 56 is cap in there). Parsed 100 dps 146k dmg, and thats not including dmg my cards added to the group. Had a Drk for tank and he did 190 dps. I dont think thats bad at all, also had no issues healing.

I have had no one try to leave a dungeon when I joined as an astro lol, havn't heard anything about that either. Xenohart your fc is just close minded and judging a job before alexander is even out... Keep in mind people, i'd say 70% of ffxiv's healers suck at healing, as any healer. Stack that with all the new players trying out astro when they dont even main a healer job. Of course you are going to see weak performance.

In harder content you do not need top potency, and with gear it gets to the point that its too easy to heal as whm/sch, so why wouldnt astro have a spot? The lower potency is being extremely exagerated, the cures are hardly different.

The base cures are fine. They are not far off, you are correct. I am Happy with where the cure potency/MP cost is at right now.
The real issue to me is the card system has trouble, it is way to RNG for no reward

You are running Dungeons, anyone can heal a dungeon, i dont think many are sayign AST cant handle a dungeon. The issue will be when progression of harder content is here.

If you enjoy the class, i am happy for you. Thats what the game is about. What these threads are about.. , is the class as good as the others ? How do they match up ? There is nothing wrong with seeing flaws in a class.

[Nague]

instead of this super bole, i just pop sacred ground which is 30 sec cooldown and AE.
Oh and the chance for you to draw bole is about the same as my sacred ground giving me another free ae heal.

Again, where is this utility that justifies the weak healing capabilities?

[Krixus]

You are running Dungeons, anyone can heal a dungeon, i dont think many are sayign AST cant handle a dungeon. The issue will be when progression of harder content is here.

Well multiple times in this thread people have been saying healing dungeons was much more difficult, and the other dude just said people are outright leaving que's cause they see an astro.

[Laerune]

Cards need some fixing, getting the same card 6x when you have no use for it, is starting to be a pain. In the last 3 hours of healing as a AST, I have never seen a Bole card. The healing potency needs to be brought to the same level as WHM and SCH. The AST is not a support class, we do not have a spot for a pure support class in this game. Yoshida himself said, no support role in FFXIV just, because Bard/Machinist and AST can buff other players, does not mean that they are pure support classes.

The AST is supposed to be able to heal 4 man on its own and to be able to rival the SCH and WHM when doing a 8 man, why else would someone take a AST when SCH has more reliable buffs and can heal better and WHM has more healing and is a master in AOE healing? If SE does not fix this, we will see AST being denied from raids, kicked from dungeons and alot of players benching their class. I do not want this to happen, I love the Star Globe, I love the skills and the gameplay, but the potency and the cards needs alot of fixing and honestly, I am suprised the in-house beta testers of SE have not noticed this.

[Lilita]

When there will be progress in alexander, mistakes will be made, people will want reliable heals, heals that can fix and carry mistakes, not heals that can work if you play perfectly.. EDIT: by you i mean whole group, not a healer by himself

[Shamirah]

To be honest, I just have this feeling they purposely nerfed the new jobs to prevent everyone rerolling to it and keep a good balance between the jobs population. Now the thing is... when will they buff them ?

[Violet_Magenta]

I am suprised the in-house beta testers of SE have not noticed this.

This^^ I see no justification for ast to have less healing potency than a whm/sch.

I just do not see how scholar can get away with its healing potency then - if anything scholar is a jack of all trade and a master of all trades. they have barrier heals which works well with their fairy - an ast in nocturnal does not have that extra healing not to mention that crit adlo is an amazing bonus for sch. They get free heals from their pet, aetherflow keeps mp high, selene can act as support (arguably more efficiently than ast), they have damage mitigation skills (eye for an eye, virus, sacred soil) AND they can dps pretty well (cross class cleric stance and aero).

[Violet_Magenta]

If ast could even get half of the utility/ versatility of scholar then I would say the reduced potency is justified. Aspected benefic is instant, which is nice, so you can be more "mobile" than most healers - then again a scholar can just position their fairy too. (edit: lustrate is also instant, but lets not even go there) It seems like pets now get the benefit of food? (crit/det food for fairy? if eos scores a crit heal she has 25% chance of increasing scholars casting speed/ why cant ast have rng like this lol)

Another thing I notice is that people talk about waiting till 60 to see if it gets better - with the way skills and levels are synced, ast should not just be viable at end game, but viable across old and new content. I have no doubt that ast can do all content - but right now its "skin and bones" compared to the other healers. If ast is suppose to be a technical healer... then there should be more reward for people that have the skill to play it - right now ast is high risk low reward where it should be high risk high reward.

edit: sch on other hand is low risk high reward, because your fairy alleviates some of the pressure/ mistakes made.

edit: right now ast feels like a scholar without their pet. In fact sch, without their pet, may have some advantages because of aetherflow and damage mitigation skills.

[VanilleFang]

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Pretty sure part of being AST is learning to adapt and deal with the cards you draw. Don't sit there and rely on one popping up, use what you have and use what you get. I'm a bad and only level 48 right now, but I honestly don't have a problem with anything the AST does. I don't always get a card I want, but I don't fret and worry about not getting a specific one.