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  1. #61
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    Starkbeaumont's Avatar
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    my biggest complain at lv57 is atm how lackluster souleater is, hp return is too low. at least the dark arts version should return more hp. maybe twice (or even more) damaged dealt. also why does it only absob hp in grit stance?
    blood weapon just outside grit is meh aswell, but i can see how it is balanced. otherwse mp management would be non existant.

    Abyssal Drain is awesome though. I felt undefeatable my first time in the vault.

    Dark dance is too random to be useful on single target mobs imo. delirium is nice if you don't have a mnk in the pt. but both syphon strike finisher are just ok. i find myself often not doing them, just getting some mp back and going back into the higher dmg enmity combo. and this devalues the DA effect of power slash, as hate is never an issue this way

    plunge and salted earth are nice, but just tools in the end that do almost nothing for tanking.


    I do love the job though, but i still have to see how it performs on real stuff.
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  2. #62
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    Tila Beauguerre
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
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    Havent got to abyssal drain yet, but am I right in assuming that it makes Unleash redundant? Both are aoe enmity generators with no CD.
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  3. #63
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    Krael Bastion
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    delirium is nice if you don't have a mnk in the pt. but both syphon strike finisher are just ok. i find myself often not doing them, just getting some mp back and going back into the higher dmg enmity combo. and this devalues the DA effect of power slash, as hate is never an issue this way
    I don't think you are accounting for the difference between Syphon and Spinning's potencies, when you do Delirium chain is actually higher potency than Power, if only by 10 . Using it gets you syphon though which means more DA SE, much higher potency than any other chain. So Power's DA effect is still pretty useful.
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  4. #64
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    Rhaja Foxtail
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorielle View Post
    There's something I've been wondering. What was the name of the move which procs on Parry to reduce incoming damage from enemies? I don't recall anything stating if it would stack with Warrior's Storm's Eye or Ninja's Dancing Edge. This could prove to be useful endgame. I haven't had the chance to test it myself. Also I apologize if it was mentioned already.
    Reprise. Haven't had a chance to test that yet. But it more than likely will.
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  5. #65
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    Cyrus-Wallace's Avatar
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorielle View Post
    There's something I've been wondering. What was the name of the move which procs on Parry to reduce incoming damage from enemies? I don't recall anything stating if it would stack with Warrior's Storm's Eye or Ninja's Dancing Edge. This could prove to be useful endgame. I haven't had the chance to test it myself. Also I apologize if it was mentioned already.
    You mean Reprisal. The bad thing about it, it has a 30 recast time, so you can't keep it up for two reasons: RNG (parry) + CD. Compared to Storm's Eye, which can be up by following the OT routine. Reprisal is an actual "downgrade". It's useful, as they say, if there's no MNK in your group... and if the boss doesn't attack you with magical attacks. 'Cuz, you can't parry a nova AoE.
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  6. #66
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    Eonkhui Malaguld
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    Sole Survivor works on enemies apparently:
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ltip_is_wrong/

    This'll be great in multi mob fights.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    Sole Survivor works on enemies apparently:
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ltip_is_wrong/

    This'll be great in multi mob fights.
    Lmao, now it makes sense! I was picturing something like "Quick, DPS, sacrifice for your Dark Knight now!" or the game assuming we can foresee others dying! Unless you have a DRG in your party. You would be immortal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorielle View Post
    The thing is I'm wondering if it will stack because this will actually bring in DRK+WAR combinations, potentially pushing WAR+PLD away. Even if it is 30 Second CD, 20% Debuff on damage + 20% Damage reduction is wonderful. I know not of PLD's action wise, isn't the only thing separating DRK and PLD the Attribute INT and STR accordingly(debuff wise)
    Tested, it doesn't stack.
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    Last edited by Cyrus-Wallace; 06-22-2015 at 12:57 PM.

  8. #68
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    Lorielle's Avatar
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    Lorielle Kurayami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    You mean Reprisal. The bad thing about it, it has a 30 recast time, so you can't keep it up for two reasons: RNG (parry) + CD. Compared to Storm's Eye, which can be up by following the OT routine. Reprisal is an actual "downgrade". It's useful, as they say, if there's no MNK in your group... and if the boss doesn't attack you with magical attacks. 'Cuz, you can't parry a nova AoE.
    The thing is I'm wondering if it will stack because this will actually bring in DRK+WAR combinations, potentially pushing WAR+PLD away. Even if it is 30 Second CD, 20% Debuff on damage + 20% Damage reduction is wonderful. I know not of PLD's action wise, isn't the only thing separating DRK and PLD the Attribute INT and STR accordingly(debuff wise)

    We also have ALOT of tools to make Parry go off. We run more of a problem of using Reprisal often because the CD is too long. Also..Even if the boss uses magical attacks...that would be DRK's special area since we do have abilities to mitigate magic damage~
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    Last edited by Lorielle; 06-22-2015 at 12:59 PM.

  9. #69
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    Stygia Ashenscale
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Question: Does anyone keeps the Enmity generators in the hotbars?

    I moved em already in my "secondary priority" bar but....2-3 unleash+ salted earth and you wont ever lose aggro until you do something horrible wrong or you pulled way to much. after that i give everyone my lovely dot, pop blood prize shoot em a darksided inner demon and focus em down one by one...never had ANY problems in dungeons..

    i wonder if i can use that space o,o° im still keeping them in the bars out of fear something will go wrong and i lose aggro but...never happened.
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  10. #70
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    Lorielle Kurayami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    Tested, it doesn't stack.
    Back to Square One. I tried. </3 I was hoping to push PLD to the side juuuuust a little.
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