Light or Full Party requirement for Workshop

[Catwho]

Tiny FCs: This is unfair

Big FCs: THIS IS SUPER EXCITING WHEEE

I'm in a mid-size free company with a lot of crafting addicts and we were really thrilled at the idea of group crafting. It's something we were promised when 2.0 launched. We're giving everyone a few days to get through the story then we're probably going to start scheduling regular crafting groups.

I do feel bad for the tiny FCs, but weren't we also promised FC alliances in the future?

[Idioteva]

I don't think the system should be changed, the problem is in people's perceptions of a small Free Company. The developers expect a small Free Company to be 10 members minimum, not 3 which is why you need that many members to create one in the first place. This misconception is also why there is a housing problem because they expected more people in a guild. They expected people to make communities, not cliques. If you want to privately chat with two friends, there are link shells for that so if you've chosen to ignore FC requirements, Square Enix aren't at fault.

[Omegakiyohime]

Limit

This is in no way group crafting though. It is group afk standing. It doesn't require other crafters to do anything crafting related and until it does, it's just a pointless gate. The mat turn in stage should be where the benefits of having a group comes in, not the stage that allows you to simply go forward.

As to the size of an FC, it takes 4 people to start a petition. Had SE wanted more folks in there, they would have enforced it. Even with 10 people, getting 3 more people on at the same time and asking them to come stand around for 20+ minutes (bigger parts have more phases) to do nothing, is really idiotic. I don't hate the idea of group crafting. I enjoy crafting and I welcome it. I hate the idea of group idling being thrown around as some crafting nonsense. That's lazy design. Require folks to actually craft multiple steps for an item if you want to call something FC crafting. Restrict the turn ins that 1 person can do.

[Waeksyn]

Except for those in large FC's, this is a feature that is now doomed. Really SE, why design content that people are eagerly awaiting only to screw up the design so bad. It's completely artificial. There is NOTHING required of the additional members of the party. This is a feature that is designed so that those wanting to use it must find 3 other people to move their character to a particular place and go AFK. WoW! That is some exciting stuff!

Fire the designer, remove the restriction, move on.

[Nekomataya]

Sounds like recruit or disband. That sounded mean I'm sorry. I understand the situation. But being isolated does not help make friends. I have friends and I'm not really friendly. If you have a house however I am fine with your choice. Disappointed in your isolation but I would not tell you what's best for you. My suggestion is branch out. I have many friends while I won't do much actual content with them because reasons they are all very nice.

If only it were that easy. I am certainly not disbanding or selling a FC with a house I invested lots of time and millions of gil into. The few friends that I have made, I am in an LS with, and they all already have FC's of their own. The only other option would be to invite random FC-less people, and yeah... no.
I will probably ask people from the LS to help me out once the hype about the new content has died down a bit, but it just seems pointless to have the restriction, to be honest.

Edit: Also, to say you're 'disappointed in our isolation' is a bit weird... There are people who actually prefer to keep to themselves, you know?

[Teryaani]

What advantage besides storage, do you have in a fc too small to form a party? I'm so confused. Must be an amazing friend.

Thanks! My spouse is amazing yes. My brother is a pretty good sort too. I have friends in linkshells, but they have FCs that they belong to and like the others above, I'm not going to pressure them to leave. Also like the others above, I have no interest in inviting strangers who may not even be on we need them or interested in helping if they are. And I really shouldn't have to defend myself in that regard to someone who's only goal is to be snarky.

We formed a Free Company and jumped through all the hoops to get access to stables and gardening before personal houses came out and I have no interest in abandoning my FC. As I said, SE like to do little bits of social engineering and I was pretty sure that consolidating small FCs was the real goal of the AFK crafter party.

[Parryacg]

It requires 4 people.

4. If you don't want to make friends, fine. There is no point in removing it just because you are insecure about making friends.

remember it's called COMPANY crafting. not SINGLE PERSON crafting.

[Aeyis]

I don't think the system should be changed, the problem is in people's perceptions of a small Free Company. The developers expect a small Free Company to be 10 members minimum, not 3 which is why you need that many members to create one in the first place. This misconception is also why there is a housing problem because they expected more people in a guild. They expected people to make communities, not cliques. If you want to privately chat with two friends, there are link shells for that so if you've chosen to ignore FC requirements, Square Enix aren't at fault.

That's not really the issue here. You need to invite 3 other people so they can afk for a bit, and do this several times a day. Or you get all mats for one ship and invite them to be afk for a while. How is that group crafting?

People that want to craft the ship as a group would do so regardless of this limit.

It requires 4 people.

4. If you don't want to make friends, fine. There is no point in removing it just because you are insecure about making friends.

remember it's called COMPANY crafting. not SINGLE PERSON crafting.

Except yeah, you know, its a single person doing the turn ins here.

[Musashidon]

Thanks! My spouse is amazing yes. My brother is a pretty good sort too. I have friends in linkshells, but they have FCs that they belong to and like the others above, I'm not going to pressure them to leave.

congrats you don't have to pressure them this was posted like 2 pages back.

My company just completed our first airship. Here are a couple things to ease your minds.
Only the party leader has to be in the FC. You can have friends from outside your FC help, without risking your mats. Second, there is no level requirement, so even if they're level 1 you can still complete it

[givemeraptors]

ITT: "A group activity that needs a group? HOW DARE YOU SE?!"