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  1. #11
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    ThanatosDreamsunder's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Thanatos Dreamsunder
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 53

    800,000 credits wasted

    This 4 man restriction is absurd. I was greatly looking forward to crafting my own FC airship, only to find I can't. At the very least make a notice when you buy the workshop "In order to utilize this feature you must have 4 crafters available at one time - do you still want to purchase for 800,00 credits?" Years of point acquisition wasted.....
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  2. #12
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    Renik's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Ren'li Heise
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    NO! DO NOT REMOVE THIS! IT'S FINE THE WAY IT IS!

    Why? Because you can get your friends to help you even if they aren't in your FC. That's right, Just about any crafter, at any level, from any Free Company can help you.

    Can you confirm this? i have enough friends outside of my company, but if you need them call them for every single piece it will be annoying.

    Also, you can have the team up feature to speed up the work, but forcing everyone to it is absurd, and there are no real reasons for this limitation, not even lore, as we are building a miniature.
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  3. #13
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    Teryaani's Avatar
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Seraph
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    NO! DO NOT REMOVE THIS! IT'S FINE THE WAY IT IS!

    Why? Because you can get your friends to help you even if they aren't in your FC. That's right, Just about any crafter, at any level, from any Free Company can help you.
    If you don't mind me asking, what advantage is there in leaving this in?
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    Insanity is a gradual process, don't rush it - Ford Prefect

  4. #14
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    Orspeth's Avatar
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    Orspeth Bleakwood
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    Jenova
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    Gladiator Lv 54
    Started a little help exchange thread on my servers forums - I'm thinking a linkshell for it, if worst comes to worst.
    I'm still bloody pissed about the whole thing tho.
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  5. #15
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    Grimmel's Avatar
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    Overlord Mitron
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Can you confirm this? i have enough friends outside of my company, but if you need them call them for every single piece it will be annoying.
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    Yeah, I can confirm. ^^ Did it earlier when building an Airship. Had two members from a neighbor FC join group with myself and another and had them switch to crafter.
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  6. #16
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    Grimmel's Avatar
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    Overlord Mitron
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, what advantage is there in leaving this in?
    This restriction isn't even that hard to work around. Like I said, you can have Any Crafter at Any Level from ANY Free company join your group, enter your workshop and allow you to complete the craft.
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  7. #17
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    Orspeth Bleakwood
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    Jenova
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    Gladiator Lv 54
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    This restriction isn't even that hard to work around. Like I said, you can have Any Crafter at Any Level from ANY Free company join your group, enter your workshop and allow you to complete the craft.
    Fine - but why are you so dead set on leaving it in place? What's in it for you?
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  8. #18
    Player
    Teryaani's Avatar
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Seraph
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    This restriction isn't even that hard to work around. Like I said, you can have Any Crafter at Any Level from ANY Free company join your group, enter your workshop and allow you to complete the craft.
    That didn't answer my question. What advantage is there in leaving it in? It causes us in small companies to have to ping friends and inconvenience them. So why leave it in?
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    Insanity is a gradual process, don't rush it - Ford Prefect

  9. #19
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    Grimmel's Avatar
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    That didn't answer my question. What advantage is there in leaving it in? It causes us in small companies to have to ping friends and inconvenience them. So why leave it in?
    I'll tell you WHY it was implemented this way. It was to prevent people holding on to FC's with just one alt from driving the market up on Airship Components cause guess what; They can be bought and sold on the market board.

    Forgot to add; It also prevents them from setting their airship out on ventures to gain items in which yes, they would sell those items for profit and would destroy the market for said items as we know it. Because you can apparently get materia from the Airship Ventures. Now how unfair would it be if a FC with one person in it total was destroying the market with airship venture items? And think about if this one person FC has many one person FC's with houses. That's up to a total of 8 different FC's with houses, with workshops, monopolizing the market because of rewards from Airship ventures.
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    Last edited by Grimmel; 06-20-2015 at 06:39 AM.

  10. #20
    Player
    Teryaani's Avatar
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Seraph
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    I'll tell you WHY it was implemented this way. It was to prevent people holding on to FC's with just one alt from driving the market up on Airship Components cause guess what; They can be bought and sold on the market board.
    and it won't stop that. The people using alts to scoop up houses already have a network in other FCs to work with. If anything they'll leverage your workaround far more easily than people like I can, especially given that I'm on a smaller server like Siren. All this does is punish smaller FCs that aren't on the mega servers.

    Also, what's with the bolding? I only did it in response to you. I asked a simple, civil question and you got all shouty. The heck man?.
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    Insanity is a gradual process, don't rush it - Ford Prefect

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