WHM Stoneskin vs SCH Galvanize 3.0

[tjw]

What do we WHM get? We lose exclusivities and get nerfed... SCH get rewarded...

WHM was never the defensive/mitigation healer. We have the best AoE and HoT spells, emphasised more with the new abilities and traits (Medica proc, Asylum, Assize) and the two biggest raw heals in the game (Tetra and Benediction). There are no drawbacks to WHM's raw healing or changes, instead made even stronger. Our weakness of MP management has been addressed with Assize.

SCH however is now more technical; you only have 3 aetherflow stacks to use on single target heal, AoE heal, DPS or mitigation. You actually need to carefully consider what abilities to use now, and when. They are less free to use their biggest heals as WHM are, being limited behind Aetherflow.

I said this before in another topic, but each healer has their own definitive style of healing;

WHM - Curative healing.
SCH - Defensive healing.
AST - Supportive healing.

Raw heals and powerful HoTs remain WHM's expertise. Mitigation and defensive spells remain SCH's expertise. Buffs and party support are now AST's expertise. It's up to you how you want to heal.

okay, whm still has the best aoe heal but is that enogh compared to AST? i don't think so...

Nothing compares to Cure III for absolute raw AoE healing. Aspected Helios is similar to Medica II, and Indomitability is similar to Divine Sealed Medica. There is no equivalent spell in SCH's or AST's repertoire that can overtake Cure III.

WHM has the strongest HoT - Regen. Even Aspected Benefic in Diurnal Sect doesn't compare; total of 790 potency compared to Regen's 1050 potency. Even if we consider the equivalent timespan of 18 seconds (Aspected Benefic's HoT duration), Regen still heals for 900 potency.

WHM is now the ONLY healer with access to a percentage based heal; Benediction. It also has access to the strongest raw single target heal spell; Tetragrammaton. (Don't even bother bringing up Clemency; PLD's shit MND stat is the reason why it's heal is 1200 potency).

Raw healing wise, nothing compares to WHM, even with AST's Diurnal Sect or SCH eating its fairy and using Emergency Tactics.

[MysteryNotes]

yeah shame that the shield healer job makes better shield

My issue isn't that scholars get a better shield, its that stoneskin isn't really worth casting anymore.
IIRC, Stoneskin cost the same MP to cast as Cure II.
Cure 2 would usually heal 2.3k health-ish.

With this change, Stoneskin at 10% would only give an additional 1k health if the tank had 10k health.

Whats the point in casting stoneskin then when a cure 2 does over twice of SS, at the same cost.

For stuff like Ravensbeak or other hard hitting AOEs, it would be way more efficient to simply Cure 2 + Cure 1 than bother with stoneskin.

[Sho86]

I feel sorry for the WHMs. Holy I can understand a little bit, although its not like it didn't come at a heavy MP cost. SS though just seems unwarranted; yeah SCH is the barrier job, but that is not ALL they do.

[Mutemutt]

Meh, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Stoneskin certainly is weaker and less useful now, but will still probably be used just as much anyway. I won't lie though, this motivates me even more to give stoneskin duty to the pld when it comes to defending against those tank busters and just let me focus on the heal timing.

[Shai]

Maybe you missed Spell Speed now affects Regen.

I'm not at all bothered by these changes. White Mage will still be the Heal-Nuker, I'm sure.

[Shamo_Lomenzo]

Nothing compares to Cure III for absolute raw AoE healing. Aspected Helios is similar to Medica II, and Indomitability is similar to Divine Sealed Medica. There is no equivalent spell in SCH's or AST's repertoire that can overtake Cure III.

Yeah but when is there ever an opportunity to use Cure III in a duty finder? Cast it and you're bound to only hit one person since everyone's usually dodging AoE in all different directions. The only times I've ever found purpose for it were after moves like Tidal Wave, Hellfire, etc. and even then other healers' spells are good enough to make up for the damage.

[RyuDragnier]

This thread is ridiculous.

I'll say, complaining about a shield spell nerf on the best burst healing class. Now if it was a burst healing nerf...there's room for complaining there.

[tjw]

Yeah but when is there ever an opportunity to use Cure III in a duty finder? Cast it and you're bound to only hit one person since everyone's usually dodging AoE in all different directions. The only times I've ever found purpose for it were after moves like Tidal Wave, Hellfire, etc. and even then other healers' spells are good enough to make up for the damage.

"Why use AoE heal when people are dodging an AoE?"

Typically, if people dodge an AoE, I don't need to heal them at all; if you're healing people at full HP, that's your problem.

You also don't balance mainly for DF. You balance for the high-tier raids; Cure III is almost a god-send in T13 and T12 add phase.

Sure, you're right; other AoE spells are sufficient enough to negate damage. Namely Medica II. But if I'm forced to use Medica II AND a Medica, or two Medicas, just to top people off, I would rather use a Cure III and be one and done.

And all your 'logic' doesn't argue one thing about what I said before; Cure III is STILL the strongest raw AoE heal there is.

[Lemuria]

Oh... #@%$ you, Square-Enix. Seriously. What the hell is wrong with you that you have to wipe out some of our best skills in one #@%$ing update? You give burst heals to Scholar, you even admitted openly that Dissipate was overpowered. You obliterate Holy, hand out our Proshell buff to everyone, and now you've basically destroyed Stoneskin.

This spell is basically worthless now. I can cure for almost twice what Stoneskin absorbs at a meastly 10%. What is your malfunction? Do you hate White Mage or are you just too busy pandering to Scholars to notice what an absolute train wreck this is for us? Anything else we can do for you? Perhaps you'd like us to give up our cures entirely and rely solely on the nukes you gave us? After all, that's literally the ONLY thing we get in this whole update.

Screw you... You want to play favourites with Scholar, then I say screw you. You cunningly hid all of this bad news in the last update, and the tweets for the Flare/Holy nerf were deleted (but not before we had photo-evidence saved!). You knew people were going to be upset, so the very least you can do is offer us some #@%&ing explanations.

And all your 'logic' doesn't argue one thing about what I said before; Cure III is STILL the strongest raw AoE heal there is.

Yes, you clearly don't care about logic, so explaining this might be a wasted effort. Cure III has a tiny radius. It's simple economics. If you're casting Cure III and only hitting one person, you're not really getting the most out of it. If you can somehow get everyone to huddle up like players in a rugby scrum, then it becomes quite useful, but outside of those rare situations Cure III goes largely untouched.

[Blood-Aki]

I was not even aware they nerfed stoneskin, was that REALLY needed for an unoticable faster cast? why even cast it now.