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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    SCH complained that their protect was inferior to WHM...
    SCH complained that their stoneskin was inferior to WHM...

    What do we WHM get? We lose exclusivities and get nerfed... SCH get rewarded...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    What do we WHM get? We lose exclusivities and get nerfed... SCH get rewarded...
    WHM was never the defensive/mitigation healer. We have the best AoE and HoT spells, emphasised more with the new abilities and traits (Medica proc, Asylum, Assize) and the two biggest raw heals in the game (Tetra and Benediction). There are no drawbacks to WHM's raw healing or changes, instead made even stronger. Our weakness of MP management has been addressed with Assize.

    SCH however is now more technical; you only have 3 aetherflow stacks to use on single target heal, AoE heal, DPS or mitigation. You actually need to carefully consider what abilities to use now, and when. They are less free to use their biggest heals as WHM are, being limited behind Aetherflow.

    I said this before in another topic, but each healer has their own definitive style of healing;

    WHM - Curative healing.
    SCH - Defensive healing.
    AST - Supportive healing.

    Raw heals and powerful HoTs remain WHM's expertise. Mitigation and defensive spells remain SCH's expertise. Buffs and party support are now AST's expertise. It's up to you how you want to heal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    okay, whm still has the best aoe heal but is that enogh compared to AST? i don't think so...
    Nothing compares to Cure III for absolute raw AoE healing. Aspected Helios is similar to Medica II, and Indomitability is similar to Divine Sealed Medica. There is no equivalent spell in SCH's or AST's repertoire that can overtake Cure III.

    WHM has the strongest HoT - Regen. Even Aspected Benefic in Diurnal Sect doesn't compare; total of 790 potency compared to Regen's 1050 potency. Even if we consider the equivalent timespan of 18 seconds (Aspected Benefic's HoT duration), Regen still heals for 900 potency.

    WHM is now the ONLY healer with access to a percentage based heal; Benediction. It also has access to the strongest raw single target heal spell; Tetragrammaton. (Don't even bother bringing up Clemency; PLD's shit MND stat is the reason why it's heal is 1200 potency).

    Raw healing wise, nothing compares to WHM, even with AST's Diurnal Sect or SCH eating its fairy and using Emergency Tactics.
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    Last edited by tjw; 06-19-2015 at 03:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
    Nothing compares to Cure III for absolute raw AoE healing. Aspected Helios is similar to Medica II, and Indomitability is similar to Divine Sealed Medica. There is no equivalent spell in SCH's or AST's repertoire that can overtake Cure III.
    Yeah but when is there ever an opportunity to use Cure III in a duty finder? Cast it and you're bound to only hit one person since everyone's usually dodging AoE in all different directions. The only times I've ever found purpose for it were after moves like Tidal Wave, Hellfire, etc. and even then other healers' spells are good enough to make up for the damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamo_Lomenzo View Post
    Yeah but when is there ever an opportunity to use Cure III in a duty finder? Cast it and you're bound to only hit one person since everyone's usually dodging AoE in all different directions. The only times I've ever found purpose for it were after moves like Tidal Wave, Hellfire, etc. and even then other healers' spells are good enough to make up for the damage.
    "Why use AoE heal when people are dodging an AoE?"

    Typically, if people dodge an AoE, I don't need to heal them at all; if you're healing people at full HP, that's your problem.

    You also don't balance mainly for DF. You balance for the high-tier raids; Cure III is almost a god-send in T13 and T12 add phase.

    Sure, you're right; other AoE spells are sufficient enough to negate damage. Namely Medica II. But if I'm forced to use Medica II AND a Medica, or two Medicas, just to top people off, I would rather use a Cure III and be one and done.

    And all your 'logic' doesn't argue one thing about what I said before; Cure III is STILL the strongest raw AoE heal there is.
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